What is the process - or who is our NIL GM?

[Newhouser]

I'm sure it is posted in the 85 page Jesse thread but can I get a Cliff notes version of how the process works.

People without the initials AW give money to the 315 fund. From there who decides who gets what and who puts a value on a player? Red has to be included in any offers no? Just curious and sorry if already asked and answered.

 

[Cusefan0307]

We don't have one. Might be a position we need...

 

[Newhouser]

We don't have one. Might be a position we need...

Somebody has to be putting the offers together.

 

[gmoney44]

Somebody has to be putting the offers together.

It’s got to be a tough job. We are the equivalent of a mom and pop shop going against fortune 500’s.

 

[Orangezoo]

We don't have one. Might be a position we need...

Yeah or maybe I'd say more than just need... should be a mandate at this point.

 

[SU94]

I'm sure it is posted in the 85 page Jesse thread but can I get a Cliff notes version of how the process works.

People without the initials AW give money to the 315 fund. From there who decides who gets what and who puts a value on a player? Red has to be included in any offers no? Just curious and sorry if already asked and answered.

I have one scenario to inquire about. And let's use Weitsman in this example, even though he is stepping aside.

Red and staff identify players they like. They then begin prioritizing/recruiting as they've always done (or remarkably similar). At what point does the NIL package get floated from someone like Weitsman to the player and how does he know the staff's priority list?

How does the NIL group (or individual) know exactly which player(s) to engage with to make sure they are not offering a package to someone that is not our primary target for a certain position?

With recruiting being so fluid, sometimes evolving/devolving by the hour, I wonder how this process flows. And it makes me warry of "the program is not involved with the NIL" storyline.

Any help on understanding this? Thanks.

 

[Sbucketball]

I'm afraid Red is in a really tough spot. Jesse was asking for a very reasonable number given his talents, and if Cuse couldn't meet his demand, there's no way they ever get the players necessary to resurrect the program. Jesse will get far more than what he was asking for from Cuse in the portal. Hopefully Red is doing everything he can to let leadership know he's dead before he even started unless they procure boosters with a sutiable amount of NIL.

 

[Cusefan0307]

I'm afraid Red is in a really tough spot. Jesse was asking for a very reasonable number given his talents, and if Cuse couldn't meet his demand, there's no way they ever get the players necessary to resurrect the program. Jesse will get far more than what he was asking for from Cuse in the portal. Hopefully Red is doing everything he can to let leadership know he's dead before he even started unless they procure boosters with a sutiable amount of NIL.

The number being reasonable is open for interpretation.

 

[OburgOrange]

I'm afraid Red is in a really tough spot. Jesse was asking for a very reasonable number given his talents, and if Cuse couldn't meet his demand, there's no way they ever get the players necessary to resurrect the program. Jesse will get far more than what he was asking for from Cuse in the portal. Hopefully Red is doing everything he can to let leadership know he's dead before he even started unless they procure boosters with a sutiable amount of NIL.

What was the number he was asking for?

 

[Cusefan78]

What was the number he was asking for?

Way more then he’s worth when they can use that money to get a better player

 

[upperdeck]

so what changed in his visa status that allows him to get NIL money?

 

[Sbucketball]

Way more then he’s worth when they can use that money to get a better player

If that's true, and they're saving up for, say, Hunter Dickinson, they better not swing and miss. Bold strategy. Bird in the hand etc. etc.

But my fear is they simply don't have the booster money.

 

[cliftonparksufan]

The number being reasonable is open for interpretation.

It comes down to supply and demand. Someone looking to plug a hole with a 14/10 guy is going to overpay.

 

[Cusefan0307]

It comes down to supply and demand. Someone looking to plug a hole with a 14/10 guy is going to overpay.

Yup. Those who have seen him play every possession know anytime there's any hint of physicality he's shut down.

 

[OCESIP]

I have one scenario to inquire about. And let's use Weitsman in this example, even though he is stepping aside.

Red and staff identify players they like. They then begin prioritizing/recruiting as they've always done (or remarkably similar). At what point does the NIL package get floated from someone like Weitsman to the player and how does he know the staff's priority list?

How does the NIL group (or individual) know exactly which player(s) to engage with to make sure they are not offering a package to someone that is not our primary target for a certain position?

With recruiting being so fluid, sometimes evolving/devolving by the hour, I wonder how this process flows. And it makes me warry of "the program is not involved with the NIL" storyline.

Any help on understanding this? Thanks.

Your questions are at the core of what is acceptable process according to the NCAA, and if your questions are answered honestly then it opens pandora's box to potential violations.

People here will argue the NCAA is meaningless and toothless in today's environment, but the reality is it still exists and the threat is there. Until schools and universities officially proclaim there is no need (or at least a very minimal need) for it to exist in the name of "amateurism" the NCAA continues to be a governing body that has to be addressed.

 

[Franz69]

I jokingly posted the other day that we need the Belbey Brothers to be the GM/Assistant GM. Now I'm not really kidding. We need help with NIL and the portal.

 

[Fly Rodder]

If that's true, and they're saving up for, say, Hunter Dickinson, they better not swing and miss. Bold strategy. Bird in the hand etc. etc.

But my fear is they simply don't have the booster money.

Not Hunter. Every team is going to have a cap and they need to be prepared to tell someone no if the ask is excessive. This isn't a blank check situation. At some point there's a limit and if someone else wants to be a reckless spender because they've had three losing seasons and fewer sweet 16 appearances than SU has in the last decade, well, bye.

 

[Newhouser]

I have one scenario to inquire about. And let's use Weitsman in this example, even though he is stepping aside.

Red and staff identify players they like. They then begin prioritizing/recruiting as they've always done (or remarkably similar). At what point does the NIL package get floated from someone like Weitsman to the player and how does he know the staff's priority list?

How does the NIL group (or individual) know exactly which player(s) to engage with to make sure they are not offering a package to someone that is not our primary target for a certain position?

With recruiting being so fluid, sometimes evolving/devolving by the hour, I wonder how this process flows. And it makes me warry of "the program is not involved with the NIL" storyline.

Any help on understanding this? Thanks.

Much better wording on what I was trying to ask - thank you.

 

[Sbucketball]

Not Hunter. Every team is going to have a cap and they need to be prepared to tell someone no if the ask is excessive. This isn't a blank check situation. At some point there's a limit and if someone else wants to be a reckless spender because they've had three losing seasons and fewer sweet 16 appearances than SU has in the last decade, well, bye.

Saving up for Judah? He'll probably need a good sum of money. Someone better be ready with a check if he's returning to college. Without Judah or someone like Judah, and Jesse or someone like Jesse, this team is in trouble.

 

[Brooky03]

so what changed in his visa status that allows him to get NIL money?

I’m also curious about this. Maybe he wants to go to a team that’s playing a game outside the US so he can do that loophole thing and grab a check when he steps off the plane?

 

[upperdeck]

I’m also curious about this. Maybe he wants to go to a team that’s playing a game outside the US so he can do that loophole thing and grab a check when he steps off the plane?

if thats a thing, then why couldnt he just fly home and get a check?

 

[Sbucketball]

if thats a thing, then why couldnt he just fly home and get a check?

Yes, I think that was the plan. But Cuse didn't pony up.

 

[Newhouser]

Yes, I think that was the plan. But Cuse didn't pony up.

Or Cuse ponied up to the value that they thought he was worth and Jesse disagreed.

 

[Cusefan69]

So I see vague references to a high number but does anyone actually know what the number was? To be clear I am not saying it was or wasn't, just trying to firm up a fact here is all.

 

[Sbucketball]

Or Cuse ponied up to the value that they thought he was worth and Jesse disagreed.

Well, yes. The offer didn't meet the demand, which is how deals die. But if the demand is far less than what he'll get in the open market portal, that indicates trouble on the horizon unless the war chest grows.