Who should have redshirted?

[PoppyHart]

If there was ONE player who should have redshirted his freshman year over the last 20 years, who would it have been?

I think we lost a lot as a program with Damone Brown not redshirting.

 

[RF2044]

If there was ONE player who should have redshirted his freshman year over the last 20 years, who would it have been?

I think we lost a lot as a program with Damone Brown not redshirting.

I'll nominate James Southerland.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

Sherman Douglas.

We needed a point guard in 1990 in the worst way.

 

[RF2044]

Sherman Douglas.

We needed a point guard in 1990 in the worst way.

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[PoppyHart]

Sherman Douglas.

We needed a point guard in 1990 in the worst way.

Would we have been a Final Four team in 1987 if he had never played a minute prior to the season? I know he didn't play much as a frosh, but you never know.

 

[Czar]

I would have said Rautins, then remembered he got a medical redshirt.

 

[W'boro'Cuse315]

Johnnie Morant without a doubt. Seriously, Arinze.

Edit: Forgot AO RS Soph year

 

[Cheriehoop]

Demetris Nichols

 

[Marsh01]

Melo

 

[Bayside44]

I'll nominate James Southerland.

I thought he did? Seemed like he was 25 when he left SU.

 

[dasher]

I believe southerland did red shirt but the worst none red shirt in the jb era and it's not close is Dan Schayes. Hardly played at all as a frosh. Was great by his sr year and we had to play Hawkins in what would have been danny's sr year.

 

[RF2044]

I believe southerland did red shirt but the worst none red shirt in the jb era and it's not close is Dan Schayes. Hardly played at all as a frosh. Was great by his sr year and we had to play Hawkins in what would have been danny's sr year.

I thought he did? Seemed like he was 25 when he left SU.

Okay--just out of curiosity...

Southerland originally was in the same recruiting class as Kris Joseph. Southerland didn't qualify academically, so he went to a prep school [I believe], which made him come the next year. Spacing him out one year from KJ.

Then, his true frosh season, he had an exhibition where he went something like 6-6 from three point range, which essentially put the kybosh on him redhsirting. That was the 09-10 season--Wes's one year in our program, and of course--JS didn't play. Hence, my viewpoint about him redshirting. So I don't think that he redshirted, I think he spent a year at a prep school after Cordozo.

Am I misremembering the details?

 

[Trueblue25]

Rick Jackson, or was he redshirted?

Maybe CJ? :O

 

[dasher]

Okay--just out of curiosity...

Southerland originally was in the same recruiting class as Kris Joseph. Southerland didn't qualify academically, so he went to a prep school [I believe], which made him come the next year. Spacing him out one year from KJ.

Then, his true frosh season, he had an exhibition where he went something like 6-6 from three point range, which essentially put the kybosh on him redhsirting. That was the 09-10 season--Wes's one year in our program, and of course--JS didn't play. Hence, my viewpoint about him redshirting.

Am I misremembering the details?

I don't know. I just remember him red shirting. I'll find out for sure on Monday. If I am right, I'll let you know.

 

[PoppyHart]

Demetris Nichols

I thought of him, but he actually contributed late in the 03-04 season and "lead" the team to the NIT as senior, whereas Brown at least brought his team to the 2nd round of the tourney. I suppose if you incorporated him into the Flynn, Green, Jackson, Jardine quartet he would have been a source of calm. With Brown playing in 01-02, I doubt we miss the tourney.

Southerland is a very good call. I also regret the non-shirts of Luke Jackson and, if he had stayed, Glenn Sekunda.

 

[RF2044]

I don't know. I just remember him red shirting. I'll find out for sure on Monday. If I am right, I'll let you know.

I totally could have those details screwed up--just thought that he was in the same original class as KJ, but ended up being a year later eligibility wise due to having to go to prep school.

 

[Meatball56]

I totally could have those details screwed up--just thought that he was in the same original class as KJ, but ended up being a year later eligibility wise due to having to go to prep school.

I am pretty certain he did not redshirt

 

[PoppyHart]

I'll nominate James Southerland.

He would be phenomenal on this year's team, though it might set back Cooney's development.

 

[Meatball56]

He is not pictured on the '08-'09 team and is not listed on the roster on suathletics

 

[Bayside44]

If Sherm got a shirt we win it all in 1990. That's the worst.

 

[Digger]

BJ Johnson?

 

[thebigeast44]

If Sherm got a shirt we win it all in 1990. That's the worst.

Sherm was the first one who popped into my mind as well. He only played a bit over 300 minutes his freshman year: http://www.orangehoops.org/SDouglas.htm

The 1990 team would have been the best SU team of all time if he had been the point IMHO: http://www.orangehoops.org/1989-1990.htm

BJ without a doubt should have redshirted this year.

 

[osullfam]

I believe southerland did red shirt but the worst none red shirt in the jb era and it's not close is Dan Schayes. Hardly played at all as a frosh. Was great by his sr year and we had to play Hawkins in what would have been danny's sr year.

This. Schayes was buried behind Louie & Bouie. Went from 5PPG as a junior to 1st team all Big East as a Senior. Then went on to a 47 year career in the NBA. I think he's still playing in the league.

 

[OttoMets]

I'll nominate James Southerland.

I'm all about this, was ruing that 2009 decision at about this time last season. South rounded into an outstanding defender, a capable rebounder, and he probably could shoot ~42% from three as a fourth-year player (with an uninterrupted last year).

The one problem: where's he getting minutes on this year's team?

 

[OttoMets]

Okay--just out of curiosity...

Southerland originally was in the same recruiting class as Kris Joseph. Southerland didn't qualify academically, so he went to a prep school [I believe], which made him come the next year. Spacing him out one year from KJ.

Then, his true frosh season, he had an exhibition where he went something like 6-6 from three point range, which essentially put the kybosh on him redhsirting. That was the 09-10 season--Wes's one year in our program, and of course--JS didn't play. Hence, my viewpoint about him redshirting. So I don't think that he redshirted, I think he spent a year at a prep school after Cardozo.

Am I misremembering the details?

That's correct.