Why is Jesse continually fouling out?

[Manleymen]

Defense 101 - don’t reach - and go straight up when the guy you cover shoots. Especially with his height and length. He blocks a lot of shots which is great. You’re 7 feet tall they have to shoot over you. An altered shot without fouling is just as good as a block. Who is responsible for this improvement with Jesse? It should be a priority And easily correctable. More Jesse on the court = a higher possibility of SU winning.

 

[jdubs30]

Because no one else is good on defense is the main reason

 

[ROCuse]

It seems to me that his problem is that he THINKS he's going straight up, but oftentimes he'll move to guard the guy with the ball and bring his arms over the top anticipating a shot. When the guy jumps up there is contact and the refs call that every time.

 

[Manleymen]

It seems to me that his problem is that he THINKS he's going straight up, but oftentimes he'll move to guard the guy with the ball and bring his arms over the top anticipating a shot. When the guy jumps up there is contact and the refs call that every time.

Good point. Has to be a drill to fix that. Or sprints.

 

[Goin' Deep]

He learned the game in Europe...
They don't have the 6'10" 230 lb guys bulling their way to the basket.
Everybody is pulling up for jumpers.
Marek was the same way...

 

[CuseFaninVT]

Defense 101 - don’t reach - and go straight up when the guy you cover shoots. Especially with his height and length. He blocks a lot of shots which is great. You’re 7 feet tall they have to shoot over you. An altered shot without fouling is just as good as a block. Who is responsible for this improvement with Jesse? It should be a priority And easily correctable. More Jesse on the court = a higher possibility of SU winning.

For two of his fouls last night, he did exactly that. He’s got a bit of a reputation I fear. Next year he’ll get the benefit of the doubt.

 

[Manleymen]

He learned the game in Europe...
They don't have the 6'10" 230 lb guys bulling their way to the basket.
Everybody is pulling up for jumpers.
Marek was the same way...

Then he should stand his ground for a charge or two. I would take that over the reaching fouls. Brings up another point about working on his footwork.

 

[FRANKIEFAN]

Still a little awkward. We should have a better backup anyways a player like Edwards should be expected to pick up 4-5 fouls over 30 minutes of play. There is a reason you don't get 2 free throws in 20 mins of basketball until the team commits 10 fouls.

 

[RF2044]

I wouldn't worry about last night.

That goon from Pitt is one of the national leaders in drawing fouls. Jesse did a nice job against him, all things considered.

 

[AZOrange]

Minutes…

 

[Newhouser]

Minutes…

Yeah last night especially with the lead and the fact that Frank was good in the first half. He could have sat for a few minutes and probably not fouled out.

 

[Trueblue25]

He’s still learning the game.

That and our other starters not named Cole are some of the worst defenders this programs ever granted considerable minutes too.

I give Jesse a pass, its not laziness. He just needs to learn to be smart rather than act on instinct.

 

[Fly Rodder]

Because no one else is good on defense is the main reason

Yeah and to expand on it, it's because he's guarding a zone, and not a man, he generally has to react to where the ball is coming from and that results in lot of reaching or moving towards the offensive player. Also he's supposed to block shots. If he misses on a swat, he's going to get an arm or a face or shoulder.

Jesse is far from the most foul-prone center at SU. Chukwu, Sidibe, Rak (non-senior year), Coleman, BMK among others were similar or worse.

 

[OrangeCrush22]

I don’t think being asked to cover the 3 point line from under the rim helps with body control

 

[Oakland]

I don’t think being asked to cover the 3 point line from under the rim helps with body control

He has to protect the rim, deal with guys that the guards let thru, and run out to the corner; his defensive responsibilities are 3x that of the other guys.

 

[kuethstheman]

Rule #1 conflicts with Rule #2: Don't think, react.

It'll take time to fix his natural reaction.

 

[HoustonCuse]

I think his fourth foul had absolutely no contact between the two players (I think it was #4). Ref anticipation is a factor in maybe 10-20% of his fouls.

 

[gmoney44]

Defense 101 - don’t reach - and go straight up when the guy you cover shoots. Especially with his height and length. He blocks a lot of shots which is great. You’re 7 feet tall they have to shoot over you. An altered shot without fouling is just as good as a block. Who is responsible for this improvement with Jesse? It should be a priority And easily correctable. More Jesse on the court = a higher possibility of SU winning.

Young centers are notoriously picking up bad fouls. If JB would have given him more then a couple minutes a game last year (like he should have) he would be smarter about it this year.

 

[newmexicuse]

I agree most of it is on Jesse, but it also seems to me he now has the rep of fouling guys and that at least one or two borderline calls go against him every game.

 

[kuethstheman]

I'm reminded of Leo Rautins who picked up a couple fouls a game by draping his arms over the offensive player. He was always incredulous that it was called and seemed absolutely sure he had his arms straight up. He should have watched some film because he almost never defended with his arms straight up.

 

[Geode]

I think his fourth foul had absolutely no contact between the two players (I think it was #4). Ref anticipation is a factor in maybe 10-20% of his fouls.

40% (that's 2 fouls for non-math people ) of his fouls on Sat. against Wake resulted from no contact as well.

 

[xc84]

I think his fourth foul had absolutely no contact between the two players (I think it was #4). Ref anticipation is a factor in maybe 10-20% of his fouls.

I think the zone handicaps us with fouls. If you watched Pitt play man, they had hands on SU players all game and pushed and poked SU players without a foul being called. Both Buddy and Swider were almost shoved out of bounds at the baseline multiple times with no fouls called. But SU plays D off the ball and when they rush to the offensive player, any contact or potential contact is called a foul.

 

[Todoubled23]

Defense 101 - don’t reach - and go straight up when the guy you cover shoots. Especially with his height and length. He blocks a lot of shots which is great. You’re 7 feet tall they have to shoot over you. An altered shot without fouling is just as good as a block. Who is responsible for this improvement with Jesse? It should be a priority And easily correctable. More Jesse on the court = a higher possibility of SU winning.

Noticed this on a small sample size early in the season, he's been extremely foul prone. Hard to keep him on the floor for the duration the team needs his presence IMO.

 

[CuseTG2003]

Because no one else is good on defense is the main reason

Same reason Marek often fouled out.

 

[CuseTG2003]

Our centers are on an island and in a no-win position as the last line of defense.