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This season I will once again be charting Syracuse’s games in terms of “winning plays”. I look at the results of each play and decide which team got the minimum they wanted out of the play. Rather than making instinctive judgments, I use a formula:
- On first down, the offensive team wants to get at least a third of the way to a new first down: they will have two more plays before they might have to surrender the ball and if they gain that same amount of yards on each of those two plays, they’ll get the first down. If they don’t make it a third of the way to a new first down, the defense won the play.
- On second down, the offense wants to get at least halfway to a new first down by the same logic.
- On third and fourth down, they want to get the first down.
- Penalties, if added onto a play by the referees, are added on to the results above. If the offense gains 5 yards on first down but there was holding and they lost yardage instead, the defense won the play. If a running back made a 25 yard run on first and ten and the holding was 20 yards downfield, turning it into a 5 yard gain, that’s still a win for the offense. If the defense is penalized and it’s tacked on, again the net result is what is evaluated. The penalties I’ve listed negated the play entirely and are a “loss” for the penalized team and thus a win for their opponent.
- If a penalty was not tacked onto a play, it’s a lost play for the team being penalized. I'll count them separate from the other plays from scrimmage because I don't know if the intended play before the penalty would have been a run or a pass - so I wouldn't know where to put it in the chart below.
- A turnover is, obviously, a win for the team that wound up with the ball.
- On a kick-off a touchback brings the ball out to the 25 yard line. Teams still seem to be trying to kick the ball into the end zone and avoid a runback if they can, so any kick-off that results in the receiving team starting between their goal line and their 25 is a win for the kicking team. Beyond that, the receiving team wins.
- On a punt, a touchback takes the ball out of the 20. So any punt that results in the other team taking over from their goal line to their 20 is a win for the punting team. If the next change in field position is at least 40 yards, the punting team has also won the play.
- A successful place kick is, obviously, a win for the kicking team.
- Any play that results in a touchdown is, obviously, a win for that team that scores it.
- A “victory play” where a team accepts a loss just to let the clock run out, is a win for the offensive team.
I will indicate in parenthesis how many yards there were to go to get a new first down, (if other than 10), unless it was for no gain or negative yardage. If it was a touchdown, (“TD)” a scramble/sack (“S”) a victory play (“V”) or involved a penalty (P). I’ll treat a scramble or a sack as a passing play as the Cuse.com play by play now tells you when it’s either of those two. 1R means first down running plays. 1P means first down passing plays, etc.
I have decided to list the “Big Plays” at the bottom of each team’s summary. A big play is a play from scrimmage of over 20 yards, (or 20+ yards lost), kickoff returns of +25 yards, punt returns of +20, blocked kicks, missed kicks, and turnovers on fumbles, interceptions and downs.
When SYRACUSE had the ball:
Drive Starts: S25, S47, S21, S8, S25, S26, ND42, S30, S5, S25, S33, S25, S25, S25, S25= 403/15 = S27 with 1,097 yards to go.
KO: ND25, ND34, ND25, ND25, S47 (onside attempt)
Total: Syracuse 3 Notre Dame 2
P: 38 to ND37, 34 to ND45, 37 to ND36, 32 to ND29, 28 to S35, Blocked
Total: Syracuse 0 Notre Dame 6
FG: Good from 54
Total: Syracuse 1 Notre Dame 0
XP: Good, Good, Good
Total: Syracuse 3 Notre Dame 0
Kicking plays total: Syracuse 7 Notre Dame 8
1r: 2, 4, 3, -1, 9, 9, 1, 0, 2, 2, 4TD, 7, 2
Total: Syracuse 5 Notre Dame 8
1p: Interception-TD, I, I, 8, -3(s), 23, 30, Interception I, 15(15), 17, I, 13TD, -7(s)
Total: Syracuse 6 Notre Dame 8
First Down Total: Syracuse 11 Notre Dame 16
2r: 21(8), -6, 3, 8(3)
Total: Syracuse 2 Notre Dame 2
2p: 7(14), 13(7), 5(11), I, -7(s), I, I, 30(2), I, I, I, 12, I, I
Total: Syracuse 4 Notre Dame 10
Second Down Total: Syracuse 6 Notre Dame 12
3r: 5(1), 3, 8(8)
Total: Syracuse 2 Notre Dame 1
3p: 11(7), I, I, -1, I, I, 13(22), -1(s), 18(5), 11(17)
Total: Syracuse 2 Notre Dame 8
Third Down Total: Syracuse 4 Notre Dame 9
4r: none
Total: Syracuse 0 Notre Dame 0
4p: I, I
Total: Syracuse 0 Notre Dame 2
Fourth Down Total: Syracuse 0 Notre Dame 2
Total on running plays: Syracuse 9 Notre Dame 11
Total on passing plays: Syracuse 12 Notre Dame 28
Total on plays from scrimmage: Syracuse 21 Notre Dame 39
Penalties not tacked on to plays: -10, +5, -9, -5, +5 Syracuse 2 Notre Dame 3
Game total when SYRACUSE had the ball: Syracuse Notre Dame
Big Plays: 21 run, Interception, 23 pass, 30 pass, 30 pass, (I decided to include) 54yd FG
When SYRACUSE had the ball:
Drive Starts: ND25, ND37, ND45, ND36, ND29, ND39, ND34, S35, BD25, ND25, ND46, S2, S47, S29 = 628/14 = ND 45 with 772 yards to go.
KO: S25, S47, S25, S30, S25, S25, S25, S25
Total: Syracuse 2 Notre Dame 6
P: 38 at S8, 33 to S26, 35 to S5, 45 to S32
Total: Syracuse 1 Notre Dame 3
FG: Good from 39, Good from 31, Good from 20
Total: Syracuse 0 Notre Dame 3
XP: Good, Good, Good, Good, Good
Total: Syracuse 0 Notre Dame 5
Kicking plays total: Syracuse 3 Notre Dame 17
1r: 5, 6, 9, 3, 6, 6, 16, 4, 6, -1, 2, 3, 14, 3, 2, 4, 2, 3, 4, 4, 2, 11TD, 2TD, 4, 28, 4(6), -1v, -1v
Total: Syracuse 9 Notre Dame 19
1p: 12, 5, I, Interception, I, 11, 3TD
Total: Syracuse 3 Notre Dame 4
First Down Total: Syracuse 12 Notre Dame 23
2r: 4(5), 7(4), 3(1), 12(4), 3(9), 8(5), 2(6), 3(4), 3TD, 5, 7(7), 14(6), 2(8), -2, 1, 5(6), 2(8), 2(6), 0
Total: Syracuse 8 Notre Dame 12
2p: 10(13), 21(8), 37, I
Total: Syracuse 1 Notre Dame 3
Second Down Total: Syracuse 9 Notre Dame 15
3r: 1(1), 3(1), 1(2), -1, 4(1), 7(4), 0
Total: Syracuse 3 Notre Dame 4
3p: I, I, 6(4), I, I, I, I, 11(6)
Total: Syracuse 6 Notre Dame 2
Third Down Total: Syracuse 9 Notre Dame 6
4r: 1(1)
Total: Syracuse 0 Notre Dame 1
4p: none
Total: Syracuse 0 Notre Dame 0
Fourth Down Total: Syracuse 0 Notre Dame 1
Total on running plays: Syracuse 20 Notre Dame 36
Total on passing plays: Syracuse 10 Notre Dame 9
Total on plays from scrimmage: Syracuse 30 Notre Dame 45
Penalties not tacked on to plays: -15, -5, -5, +15 Syracuse 3 Notre Dame 1
Game total when SYRACUSE had the ball: Syracuse 36 Notre Dame 63
Big Plays: Interception-TD, 21 pass, 37 pass, Interception, Blocked Punt
Overall Game Total: Syracuse 66 Notre Dame 113
Comments: Physically, we got crushed in this game, losing the plays 66-113. There were very few big plays from scrimmage: Notre Dame had pass plays of 21 and 37 yards in the second quarter and we had pass plays of 23, 50 and 50 yards after Carlos Del Rio Wilson came in. More important than those plays is that Notre Dame got off 14 more plays and had 7 more first downs, (it seemed worse). They ran 36 successful running plays to our 9. We had 12 successful passing plays - out of 40. If you don’t have the personnel to stop a power running game you need a passing attack that can score as many points as they do in half the possession time, (it was 22:20-37:40 in this game), preferably more to force them out of their game plan. With an injured Shrader, we were no able to do this. We had a shot with Carlos Del Rio-Wilson but his inexperience, (more specifically the receiver’s inexperience with him), prevented the comeback that seemed possible.
-18 yards between drive starts is tough to overcome, especially when big plays were at a premium. We came into this game 95-15 when we kicked the ball and 15-8 when we punted it. We were 7-8 on kicking plays vs. ND, thanks to an 0 for 6 Golden Sombrero when we punted the ball, (or tried to).
66-113 is a minus 47 play game. These are the closest games to that margin in the Babers Era:
2016 Syracuse 74 Clemson 120 = -46 We lost 0-54
2016 Syracuse 71 Florida State 120 = -49 We lost 14-45
2019 Syracuse 76 Boston College 119 = -43 We lost 27-58
2020 Syracuse 70 North Carolina 114 = -44 We lost 6-31
2020 Syracuse 72 Clemson 112 = -40 We lost 21-47
So a 24-41 loss is actually our best performance in a game like this. And most of the margin of defeat is the pick six and the two yard drive after the blocked punt.
- On first down, the offensive team wants to get at least a third of the way to a new first down: they will have two more plays before they might have to surrender the ball and if they gain that same amount of yards on each of those two plays, they’ll get the first down. If they don’t make it a third of the way to a new first down, the defense won the play.
- On second down, the offense wants to get at least halfway to a new first down by the same logic.
- On third and fourth down, they want to get the first down.
- Penalties, if added onto a play by the referees, are added on to the results above. If the offense gains 5 yards on first down but there was holding and they lost yardage instead, the defense won the play. If a running back made a 25 yard run on first and ten and the holding was 20 yards downfield, turning it into a 5 yard gain, that’s still a win for the offense. If the defense is penalized and it’s tacked on, again the net result is what is evaluated. The penalties I’ve listed negated the play entirely and are a “loss” for the penalized team and thus a win for their opponent.
- If a penalty was not tacked onto a play, it’s a lost play for the team being penalized. I'll count them separate from the other plays from scrimmage because I don't know if the intended play before the penalty would have been a run or a pass - so I wouldn't know where to put it in the chart below.
- A turnover is, obviously, a win for the team that wound up with the ball.
- On a kick-off a touchback brings the ball out to the 25 yard line. Teams still seem to be trying to kick the ball into the end zone and avoid a runback if they can, so any kick-off that results in the receiving team starting between their goal line and their 25 is a win for the kicking team. Beyond that, the receiving team wins.
- On a punt, a touchback takes the ball out of the 20. So any punt that results in the other team taking over from their goal line to their 20 is a win for the punting team. If the next change in field position is at least 40 yards, the punting team has also won the play.
- A successful place kick is, obviously, a win for the kicking team.
- Any play that results in a touchdown is, obviously, a win for that team that scores it.
- A “victory play” where a team accepts a loss just to let the clock run out, is a win for the offensive team.
I will indicate in parenthesis how many yards there were to go to get a new first down, (if other than 10), unless it was for no gain or negative yardage. If it was a touchdown, (“TD)” a scramble/sack (“S”) a victory play (“V”) or involved a penalty (P). I’ll treat a scramble or a sack as a passing play as the Cuse.com play by play now tells you when it’s either of those two. 1R means first down running plays. 1P means first down passing plays, etc.
I have decided to list the “Big Plays” at the bottom of each team’s summary. A big play is a play from scrimmage of over 20 yards, (or 20+ yards lost), kickoff returns of +25 yards, punt returns of +20, blocked kicks, missed kicks, and turnovers on fumbles, interceptions and downs.
When SYRACUSE had the ball:
Drive Starts: S25, S47, S21, S8, S25, S26, ND42, S30, S5, S25, S33, S25, S25, S25, S25= 403/15 = S27 with 1,097 yards to go.
KO: ND25, ND34, ND25, ND25, S47 (onside attempt)
Total: Syracuse 3 Notre Dame 2
P: 38 to ND37, 34 to ND45, 37 to ND36, 32 to ND29, 28 to S35, Blocked
Total: Syracuse 0 Notre Dame 6
FG: Good from 54
Total: Syracuse 1 Notre Dame 0
XP: Good, Good, Good
Total: Syracuse 3 Notre Dame 0
Kicking plays total: Syracuse 7 Notre Dame 8
1r: 2, 4, 3, -1, 9, 9, 1, 0, 2, 2, 4TD, 7, 2
Total: Syracuse 5 Notre Dame 8
1p: Interception-TD, I, I, 8, -3(s), 23, 30, Interception I, 15(15), 17, I, 13TD, -7(s)
Total: Syracuse 6 Notre Dame 8
First Down Total: Syracuse 11 Notre Dame 16
2r: 21(8), -6, 3, 8(3)
Total: Syracuse 2 Notre Dame 2
2p: 7(14), 13(7), 5(11), I, -7(s), I, I, 30(2), I, I, I, 12, I, I
Total: Syracuse 4 Notre Dame 10
Second Down Total: Syracuse 6 Notre Dame 12
3r: 5(1), 3, 8(8)
Total: Syracuse 2 Notre Dame 1
3p: 11(7), I, I, -1, I, I, 13(22), -1(s), 18(5), 11(17)
Total: Syracuse 2 Notre Dame 8
Third Down Total: Syracuse 4 Notre Dame 9
4r: none
Total: Syracuse 0 Notre Dame 0
4p: I, I
Total: Syracuse 0 Notre Dame 2
Fourth Down Total: Syracuse 0 Notre Dame 2
Total on running plays: Syracuse 9 Notre Dame 11
Total on passing plays: Syracuse 12 Notre Dame 28
Total on plays from scrimmage: Syracuse 21 Notre Dame 39
Penalties not tacked on to plays: -10, +5, -9, -5, +5 Syracuse 2 Notre Dame 3
Game total when SYRACUSE had the ball: Syracuse Notre Dame
Big Plays: 21 run, Interception, 23 pass, 30 pass, 30 pass, (I decided to include) 54yd FG
When SYRACUSE had the ball:
Drive Starts: ND25, ND37, ND45, ND36, ND29, ND39, ND34, S35, BD25, ND25, ND46, S2, S47, S29 = 628/14 = ND 45 with 772 yards to go.
KO: S25, S47, S25, S30, S25, S25, S25, S25
Total: Syracuse 2 Notre Dame 6
P: 38 at S8, 33 to S26, 35 to S5, 45 to S32
Total: Syracuse 1 Notre Dame 3
FG: Good from 39, Good from 31, Good from 20
Total: Syracuse 0 Notre Dame 3
XP: Good, Good, Good, Good, Good
Total: Syracuse 0 Notre Dame 5
Kicking plays total: Syracuse 3 Notre Dame 17
1r: 5, 6, 9, 3, 6, 6, 16, 4, 6, -1, 2, 3, 14, 3, 2, 4, 2, 3, 4, 4, 2, 11TD, 2TD, 4, 28, 4(6), -1v, -1v
Total: Syracuse 9 Notre Dame 19
1p: 12, 5, I, Interception, I, 11, 3TD
Total: Syracuse 3 Notre Dame 4
First Down Total: Syracuse 12 Notre Dame 23
2r: 4(5), 7(4), 3(1), 12(4), 3(9), 8(5), 2(6), 3(4), 3TD, 5, 7(7), 14(6), 2(8), -2, 1, 5(6), 2(8), 2(6), 0
Total: Syracuse 8 Notre Dame 12
2p: 10(13), 21(8), 37, I
Total: Syracuse 1 Notre Dame 3
Second Down Total: Syracuse 9 Notre Dame 15
3r: 1(1), 3(1), 1(2), -1, 4(1), 7(4), 0
Total: Syracuse 3 Notre Dame 4
3p: I, I, 6(4), I, I, I, I, 11(6)
Total: Syracuse 6 Notre Dame 2
Third Down Total: Syracuse 9 Notre Dame 6
4r: 1(1)
Total: Syracuse 0 Notre Dame 1
4p: none
Total: Syracuse 0 Notre Dame 0
Fourth Down Total: Syracuse 0 Notre Dame 1
Total on running plays: Syracuse 20 Notre Dame 36
Total on passing plays: Syracuse 10 Notre Dame 9
Total on plays from scrimmage: Syracuse 30 Notre Dame 45
Penalties not tacked on to plays: -15, -5, -5, +15 Syracuse 3 Notre Dame 1
Game total when SYRACUSE had the ball: Syracuse 36 Notre Dame 63
Big Plays: Interception-TD, 21 pass, 37 pass, Interception, Blocked Punt
Overall Game Total: Syracuse 66 Notre Dame 113
Comments: Physically, we got crushed in this game, losing the plays 66-113. There were very few big plays from scrimmage: Notre Dame had pass plays of 21 and 37 yards in the second quarter and we had pass plays of 23, 50 and 50 yards after Carlos Del Rio Wilson came in. More important than those plays is that Notre Dame got off 14 more plays and had 7 more first downs, (it seemed worse). They ran 36 successful running plays to our 9. We had 12 successful passing plays - out of 40. If you don’t have the personnel to stop a power running game you need a passing attack that can score as many points as they do in half the possession time, (it was 22:20-37:40 in this game), preferably more to force them out of their game plan. With an injured Shrader, we were no able to do this. We had a shot with Carlos Del Rio-Wilson but his inexperience, (more specifically the receiver’s inexperience with him), prevented the comeback that seemed possible.
-18 yards between drive starts is tough to overcome, especially when big plays were at a premium. We came into this game 95-15 when we kicked the ball and 15-8 when we punted it. We were 7-8 on kicking plays vs. ND, thanks to an 0 for 6 Golden Sombrero when we punted the ball, (or tried to).
66-113 is a minus 47 play game. These are the closest games to that margin in the Babers Era:
2016 Syracuse 74 Clemson 120 = -46 We lost 0-54
2016 Syracuse 71 Florida State 120 = -49 We lost 14-45
2019 Syracuse 76 Boston College 119 = -43 We lost 27-58
2020 Syracuse 70 North Carolina 114 = -44 We lost 6-31
2020 Syracuse 72 Clemson 112 = -40 We lost 21-47
So a 24-41 loss is actually our best performance in a game like this. And most of the margin of defeat is the pick six and the two yard drive after the blocked punt.