ACC, PAC-12, and BIG alliance / conference realignment

[Scotch]

Mostly same. I could see SMU working out though. They have money. Lots and lots of money.

I hate UConn, but are we really doing SMU over UConn?

 

[Scotch]

It's easy to think that but idk if it's true. We're the only school in the state of NY, we have by far the biggest brand, has great tv ratings, and historically one of the top private sports schools in the nation and the facilities to back it. The school actually cares about sports.

So many “fans” underrate our value.

 

[CuseLegacy]

I hate UConn, but are we really doing SMU over UConn?

Yes. Because this is all about Football.

As the saying goes football drives the bus. Even if at this moment it seems like it is trying to drive it over a precipice.

 

[orangepassion]

SMU fan here. We are a small university. We don’t have super large crowds. If you don’t have a large alum base, that happens. We also don’t play teams that anyone cares about. UT and others made sure SMU, TCU, Rice and Houston were left out of the new B12 after the SWC dissolved. Why? The 4 schools in the 2 biggest recruiting hotbeds in the country. They get the recruiting and the money. TCU gets invited to B12 ONLY because they got an invite to Big East. B12 doesn’t want schools poaching from Texas so it’s better to keep your friends close but your enemies closer. Now TCU and Baylor block us because they say we don’t add value….blah blah blah. No, it’s really because they don’t want us to recruit on equal grounds and keep us financially inferior. NIL just changed the game my friends! SMU is a sleeping giant about to awaken from the fog of the death penalty. Our NIL is probably top 20 in the country. We sit literally in the hotbed of some of the most fertile football recruiting grounds in the country. We’re giving Syracuse and all the ACC teams the chance to come to Dallas to recruit against the B12. This is terrifying to the B12. There’s tons of media types who are B12 Homers that will say horrible demeaning things about SMU just to help keep us out of a respectable conference. They don’t want the ACC here in Texas. It’s bad enough they have to compete against the SEC now. SMU has been waiting for the chance to prove we belong. NIL is flowing and our coffers are getting full. We will not embarrass the ACC.

I appreciate your perspective, but not sure what SMU adds to the conference. I don't think SU is suddenly pulling quality guys from Texas because we play SMU every 3 years.

 

[Toga]

SMU - We don't need your stinking TV revenue for five years, just let us play in your sandbox.

 

[cusefan88]

Anything Notre Dame suggests is a non-starter unless they join for football. I don't want to hear it. They suck.

 

[SMUPony]

I appreciate your perspective, but not sure what SMU adds to the conference. I don't think SU is suddenly pulling quality guys from Texas because we play SMU every 3 years.

SMU might not move the needle for everyone. If the ACC sits with it’s head in the sand like the PAC did and all the schools leave and all the sudden you are the school like Washington State….they are asking, Why didn’t we expand like the Big12? Florida State and Clemson, at a minimum, are leaving, bank on that! The ACC can be the 3rd or 4th best league but you can’t act like the PAC and do nothing.

 

[djorange1989]

Let’s push them hard off a cliff

 

[djorange1989]

Not going to lie, I was absolutely against it but you are convincing me.

I’m in too. Welcome to the board, Pony!

 

[Cuse'91]

The crazy thing is that's it's basically 1 trip to the West coast for us, and the rest of the ACC. I mean why not do it? If anything, it's Cal and Stanford that will suffer horribly in travel ordeals and costs.

 

[Acesn8s]

I can’t imagine they add odd number of teams?

 

[MSOrange]

 

[orangeinjersey]

SMU fan here. We are a small university. We don’t have super large crowds. If you don’t have a large alum base, that happens. We also don’t play teams that anyone cares about. UT and others made sure SMU, TCU, Rice and Houston were left out of the new B12 after the SWC dissolved. Why? The 4 schools in the 2 biggest recruiting hotbeds in the country. They get the recruiting and the money. TCU gets invited to B12 ONLY because they got an invite to Big East. B12 doesn’t want schools poaching from Texas so it’s better to keep your friends close but your enemies closer. Now TCU and Baylor block us because they say we don’t add value….blah blah blah. No, it’s really because they don’t want us to recruit on equal grounds and keep us financially inferior. NIL just changed the game my friends! SMU is a sleeping giant about to awaken from the fog of the death penalty. Our NIL is probably top 20 in the country. We sit literally in the hotbed of some of the most fertile football recruiting grounds in the country. We’re giving Syracuse and all the ACC teams the chance to come to Dallas to recruit against the B12. This is terrifying to the B12. There’s tons of media types who are B12 Homers that will say horrible demeaning things about SMU just to help keep us out of a respectable conference. They don’t want the ACC here in Texas. It’s bad enough they have to compete against the SEC now. SMU has been waiting for the chance to prove we belong. NIL is flowing and our coffers are getting full. We will not embarrass the ACC.

That was pretty convincing. You're in. When can you start?

 

[Scotch]

SMU fan here. We are a small university. We don’t have super large crowds. If you don’t have a large alum base, that happens. We also don’t play teams that anyone cares about. UT and others made sure SMU, TCU, Rice and Houston were left out of the new B12 after the SWC dissolved. Why? The 4 schools in the 2 biggest recruiting hotbeds in the country. They get the recruiting and the money. TCU gets invited to B12 ONLY because they got an invite to Big East. B12 doesn’t want schools poaching from Texas so it’s better to keep your friends close but your enemies closer. Now TCU and Baylor block us because they say we don’t add value….blah blah blah. No, it’s really because they don’t want us to recruit on equal grounds and keep us financially inferior. NIL just changed the game my friends! SMU is a sleeping giant about to awaken from the fog of the death penalty. Our NIL is probably top 20 in the country. We sit literally in the hotbed of some of the most fertile football recruiting grounds in the country. We’re giving Syracuse and all the ACC teams the chance to come to Dallas to recruit against the B12. This is terrifying to the B12. There’s tons of media types who are B12 Homers that will say horrible demeaning things about SMU just to help keep us out of a respectable conference. They don’t want the ACC here in Texas. It’s bad enough they have to compete against the SEC now. SMU has been waiting for the chance to prove we belong. NIL is flowing and our coffers are getting full. We will not embarrass the ACC.

Oh captain, my captain

 

[Sherman20]

SMU might not move the needle for everyone. If the ACC sits with it’s head in the sand like the PAC did and all the schools leave and all the sudden you are the school like Washington State….they are asking, Why didn’t we expand like the Big12? Florida State and Clemson, at a minimum, are leaving, bank on that! The ACC can be the 3rd or 4th best league but you can’t act like the PAC and do nothing.

I’ve been saying this for months. We should’ve put the full court press on 4-8 Pac schools a year ago.

 

[qdawgg]

Let’s push them hard off a cliff

Or put them in a hydraulic lift when it's windy...

 

[Capt. Tuttle]

I'm going to see Guns n' Roses there in October. Can't wait to see it!

Is fat Axel the rock-n-roll equivalent of fat Thor?

 

[TexanMark]

LOL, we aren’t going to join your conference but we’re going to push really hard for you to add schools to the conference that won’t matter when we leave.

If they agree to 6 games a year...I say yes

 

[kcsu]

Do you ever look up any facts at all. I don't think almost anything you say is based on any correct information and your personal conclusions on almost everything seems subpar at best.

Here's the 3rd link I found doing a less than 30 second google search after reading your post. I had no idea but knew if you were writing it, the truth was probably the opposite.

TCU in 2022 was the 13th most watched CFB team with 2.20 mill viewers per game

* Post won't show the link for some reason, keeps making a white screen. But easy to look up. If you can spell google

Please stop. Do not post any facts to this person

 

[blust2i3d4]

I hate UConn, but are we really doing SMU over UConn?

Which state has larger population, Texas or Connecticut ?

 

[CuseLegacy]

SMUPony welcome to the forum.
If you do join the ACC the conference will be able to say they have as a member the only school who ever got the death penalty and survived.

 

[storange]

SMUPony welcome to the forum.
If you do join the ACC the conference will be able to say they have as a member the only school who ever got the death penalty and survived.

IMO opinion PSU deserved it 1000x more then SMU

 

[CuseLegacy]

IMO opinion PSU deserved it 1000x more then SMU

Absolutely.

 

[SMUPony]

SMUPony welcome to the forum.
If you do join the ACC the conference will be able to say they have as a member the only school who ever got the death penalty and survived.

Plus ++++. The SMU mascot, Puruna, (small Shetland pony) is the only mascot to kill another mascot. Puruna kicked the Fordham‘s Ram to death in the early 1900’s.

 

[Toga]

Plus ++++. The SMU mascot, Puruna, (small Shetland pony) is the only mascot to kill another mascot. Puruna kicked the Fordham‘s Ram to death in the early 1900’s.

Puruna must be well over 100.