SWC75
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It occurred to me that with a new basketball season beginning I could do an “Against Ranked Teams” post for this sport, too. The margins of victory are similar to football. The formula is to first give each team that plays a ranked team from 1-25 points based on the ranking (I’ll use the writer’s poll) of their opponent. This chart shows you how many points they’d get for playing each team ranked at a certain level , (the ranking is first, the points, second):
1-25, 2-24, 3-23, 4-22, 5-21, 6-20, 7-19, 8-18, 9-17, 10-16, 11-15, 12-14, 13-13, 14-12, 15-11, 16-10, 17-9, 18-8, 19-7, 20-6, 21-5, 22-4, 23-3, 24-2, 25-1
I’ll call those “schedule points”. Then you look at the point differential in the game and apply it to the schedule points. If a team loses to the #1 ranked team by 10 points. They’d wind up with 15 points: 25 schedule points minus the ten points they lost by. If a team beats the #10 team by 5 points, they’d get 21 points: 16 schedule points plus the 5 points they won by. If a team lost to the #20 team by 6 points, they’d get nothing. The margin of defeat would cancel out their schedule points. If a team lost to the #25 team by 3 points, they get a zero. You can’t have negative points. You just failed in an attempt to get positive points.
I’ll figure the points based on games over the past week every Sunday and post them, along with cumulative season standings, just as I have done for football. As I said on that post, this is less a way of ranking than it is simply something you might want to look at in ranking them – or selecting them for a tournament. I recognize that rankings will change over the course of the season. I’m making the assumption that teams are worthy of the ranking they have at the time another team plays them. That may not always be true but a subsequent ranking may just reflect how good or bad a team has become since the game in question: they may have been as good as their ranking at the time.
WEEK ELEVEN
Arizona beat #3 UCLA 96-85 = 34 points
Marquette beat #7 Creighton 102-94 = 27 points
Kansas State beat #7 West Virginia 79-75 = 23 points
Oklahoma beat #7 West Virginia 87-89 = 21 points
Iowa State lost to #2 Kansas 72-76 = 20 points
Florida State beat #12 Louisville 73-68 = 19 points
Kentucky beat #24 South Carolina 85-69 = 16 points
Providence lost to #1 Villanova 68-78 = 15 points
Florida State beat #15 Notre Dame 83-80 = 14 points
Mississippi State lost to #5 Kentucky 81-88 = 14 points
Xavier lost to #7 Creighton 67-72 = 14 points
Notre Dame lost to #10 Florida State 80-83 = 13 points
Texas lost to #2 Kansas 67-79 = 12 points
DePaul lost to #13 Butler 69-70 = 12 points
Louisville lost to #10 Florida State 68-73 = 11 points
Minnesota lost to #17 Wisconsin 76-78 = 11 points
South Carolina beat #19 Florida 57-53 = 11 points
Texas lost to #6 Baylor 64-74 = 10 points
Boston College lost to #9 North Carolina 82-90 = 9 points
Creighton beat #22 Xavier 72-67 = 9 points
Vanderbilt beat #19 Florida 68-66 = 9 points
Texas Christian lost to #9 Baylor 53-62 = 8 points
Marquette lost to #13 Butler 80-88 = 5 points
Michigan lost to #17 Wisconsin 64-68 = 5 points
South Carolina lost to #5 Kentucky 69-85 = 5 points
Southern California lost to #14 Arizona 66-73 = 5 points
Arizona State lost to #3 UCLA 80-102 = 1 point
Portland lost to #4 Gonzaga 52-73 = 1 point
UCLA lost to #14 Arizona 85-96 = 1 point
Comment: I decided to count how many games involved each conference and came up with this: 6 for the Big 12, 5 each for the ACC, Big East and SEC, 4 for the Pac 12, 2 for the Big 10 and one each for the Atlantic 10 and the Big West. Florida State joined the 100 point club and moved into the #3 spot behind Baylor and Louisville who jumped to #1. We play Florida State on the 1/26 and Louisville 2/13 and 2/26. Something fun to look forward to.
Cumulative Totals
Top 25
Louisville 119 points
Baylor 118 points
Florida State 116 points
Butler 114 points
Kentucky 95 points
Creighton 78 points
North Carolina 76 points
West Virginia 75 points
Villanova 73 points
Indiana 68 points
Arizona 67 points
Kansas State 60 points
Notre Dame 60 points
Iowa State 55 points
South Carolina 54 points
Oregon 53 points
Gonzaga 52 points
Duke 51 points
Utah 49 points
Marquette 45 points
Oklahoma 44 points
Kansas 38 points
Oklahoma State 37 points
Texas 36 points
Wisconsin 36 points
Syracuse 0 points (108 teams have earned points so far this year)
1-25, 2-24, 3-23, 4-22, 5-21, 6-20, 7-19, 8-18, 9-17, 10-16, 11-15, 12-14, 13-13, 14-12, 15-11, 16-10, 17-9, 18-8, 19-7, 20-6, 21-5, 22-4, 23-3, 24-2, 25-1
I’ll call those “schedule points”. Then you look at the point differential in the game and apply it to the schedule points. If a team loses to the #1 ranked team by 10 points. They’d wind up with 15 points: 25 schedule points minus the ten points they lost by. If a team beats the #10 team by 5 points, they’d get 21 points: 16 schedule points plus the 5 points they won by. If a team lost to the #20 team by 6 points, they’d get nothing. The margin of defeat would cancel out their schedule points. If a team lost to the #25 team by 3 points, they get a zero. You can’t have negative points. You just failed in an attempt to get positive points.
I’ll figure the points based on games over the past week every Sunday and post them, along with cumulative season standings, just as I have done for football. As I said on that post, this is less a way of ranking than it is simply something you might want to look at in ranking them – or selecting them for a tournament. I recognize that rankings will change over the course of the season. I’m making the assumption that teams are worthy of the ranking they have at the time another team plays them. That may not always be true but a subsequent ranking may just reflect how good or bad a team has become since the game in question: they may have been as good as their ranking at the time.
WEEK ELEVEN
Arizona beat #3 UCLA 96-85 = 34 points
Marquette beat #7 Creighton 102-94 = 27 points
Kansas State beat #7 West Virginia 79-75 = 23 points
Oklahoma beat #7 West Virginia 87-89 = 21 points
Iowa State lost to #2 Kansas 72-76 = 20 points
Florida State beat #12 Louisville 73-68 = 19 points
Kentucky beat #24 South Carolina 85-69 = 16 points
Providence lost to #1 Villanova 68-78 = 15 points
Florida State beat #15 Notre Dame 83-80 = 14 points
Mississippi State lost to #5 Kentucky 81-88 = 14 points
Xavier lost to #7 Creighton 67-72 = 14 points
Notre Dame lost to #10 Florida State 80-83 = 13 points
Texas lost to #2 Kansas 67-79 = 12 points
DePaul lost to #13 Butler 69-70 = 12 points
Louisville lost to #10 Florida State 68-73 = 11 points
Minnesota lost to #17 Wisconsin 76-78 = 11 points
South Carolina beat #19 Florida 57-53 = 11 points
Texas lost to #6 Baylor 64-74 = 10 points
Boston College lost to #9 North Carolina 82-90 = 9 points
Creighton beat #22 Xavier 72-67 = 9 points
Vanderbilt beat #19 Florida 68-66 = 9 points
Texas Christian lost to #9 Baylor 53-62 = 8 points
Marquette lost to #13 Butler 80-88 = 5 points
Michigan lost to #17 Wisconsin 64-68 = 5 points
South Carolina lost to #5 Kentucky 69-85 = 5 points
Southern California lost to #14 Arizona 66-73 = 5 points
Arizona State lost to #3 UCLA 80-102 = 1 point
Portland lost to #4 Gonzaga 52-73 = 1 point
UCLA lost to #14 Arizona 85-96 = 1 point
Comment: I decided to count how many games involved each conference and came up with this: 6 for the Big 12, 5 each for the ACC, Big East and SEC, 4 for the Pac 12, 2 for the Big 10 and one each for the Atlantic 10 and the Big West. Florida State joined the 100 point club and moved into the #3 spot behind Baylor and Louisville who jumped to #1. We play Florida State on the 1/26 and Louisville 2/13 and 2/26. Something fun to look forward to.
Cumulative Totals
Top 25
Louisville 119 points
Baylor 118 points
Florida State 116 points
Butler 114 points
Kentucky 95 points
Creighton 78 points
North Carolina 76 points
West Virginia 75 points
Villanova 73 points
Indiana 68 points
Arizona 67 points
Kansas State 60 points
Notre Dame 60 points
Iowa State 55 points
South Carolina 54 points
Oregon 53 points
Gonzaga 52 points
Duke 51 points
Utah 49 points
Marquette 45 points
Oklahoma 44 points
Kansas 38 points
Oklahoma State 37 points
Texas 36 points
Wisconsin 36 points
Syracuse 0 points (108 teams have earned points so far this year)
