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javadoc
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Would they like some cheez with that whine?
Losers leave a conference because they can't get it done and aspire to piggyback on the achievements and $$$ of others. FSU would be torn asunder in the tidal forces surrounding the SEC black hole.
We will very soon be contending for the ACC title. FSU QB, meet Scott Shafer's defenders.
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There is no way, none, that UF (and others) will let F$U into the SEC.
What does that say about us?
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Virginia only had one other FBS team and a lot of votes to be gained for the politician who protected them.
Will the Florida state legislature allow FSU to abandon Miami? And pretend USF and UCF do not exist? Don't think it will earn the same overall political points.
FSU should start by being the best team in Florida again, and go from there.
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Will the Florida state legislature allow FSU to abandon Miami? And pretend USF and UCF do not exist? Don't think it will earn the same overall political points.
FSU should start by being the best team in Florida again, and go from there.
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javadoc
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That we have already been vetted as a major source of revenue increase for all teams in the ACC by ESPN, and we are still going to come in and kick ass, in hoops and football. We are elevating them.
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Comparing apples and Oranges ... even if we ran the table in the BE we would never have a shot at an NC or anything of the like ... FSU (especially this season) would be in the title game if they didn't lose to NC State and get bitch slapped by UF ... we had to leave the BE because the conference made no attempt whatsoever to make football a priority and expand the right way ... the ACC is put a good foot forward by grabbing SU, Pitt and trying to anchor ND to the ACC before this new realignment mess started. They could have easily stood pat but they have been proactive thus far, lets see how it all plays out. However I don't think FSU or Clemson realize how good they have it in the ACC. Go to the SEC and see more $$$ but watch your brand look less and less invincible as you get knocked around by top 25 teams every other week.
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A one loss WVU would have made the BCS championship in 2007 had they not shat the bed against a four win Pitt in 2007. Syracuse, Pitt and WVU have enough history and tradition that they would have been garnered enough respect to play for a BCS if deserving. We were also the three BE schools that generally schedule big OOC games.
Say we went undefeated this year: we would have beaten then #2 USC, then #15 Rutgers and then #9 Louisville along with a Northwestern team that flirted with the top 25 all year. It would make an interesting argument because we would have two common opponents with Notre Dame and it took them 3OT's to beat Pitt.
Would love to have had that problem though.
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That is what was said about UVA back in 2003 when VTech wanted to go to ACC. Suddenly the governor of Virginia told UVA to shut up or forget about their state aid. Odder things have happened.
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Throwing around facts are we? Napoleon complex is alive and well here, thanks for having a level head.
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Miami is a private school so the legislature has little if any say about what happens to them. Besides, the NCAA may take care of that issue, at least for a while.
As for the two directionals, it's hard to imagine the legislature doing anything to get them into a better conference.
That said, you are on point with FSU becoming the best school in Florida as a starting point. From what I've read, FSU's best hope is the Big 12, also known as the Texas, OU and a bunch of lapdogs conference.
Losers always blame someone else for their problems. If FSU and Clemson win the games over the weekend, problem solved but instead they play the blame game and want to live off others accomplishments instead, like the Mississippi teams and USCe do in the SEC.
It says we left because the BE ship was sinking fast; they want to leave while the ACC ship is still sitting high in the water. (Although they no qualms about punching a hole in the hull IF they were to hitch a ride on the SS SEC.)
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Well WVU didn't and the fact is 4 BE teams were ranked that season at various points in the season which was a big contributor to them rising as high as #2 in the polls (they were 3rd in the BCS at that point and weren't even guaranteed a spot in the title game because other matchups hadn't played out yet). The Big East is lucky to get any in the top 25 this season and only one will be ranked at season's end and if you think with our schedule based on how SC and Mizzou performed the whole season we would finish ahead of ND who has an SOS ranked 18th or Bama then I have a bridge in Brooklyn for sale. Once WVU left it was the only school in our conference that would actually beat a ranked non-conference foe and league credibility went with them. LVille was 9-0 going into our matchup and wasn't even in the top 5 (or ahead of a 1 loss FSU in the rankings for that matter) ... do I really even need to explain the perception of the BE and how it would affect us even if we ran the table?
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We would have got the poll benefit of beating the teams ranked 2, 15 and 9 at the time we beat them. We also would have beaten Mizzou, Northwestern and Minnesota and a decent Cincinnati. It doesn't necessarily matter what happens to those teams after that. Starting 2-0 with wins over NU and #2 USC we would have entered the polls at about 18-20. Continue winning and probably be In the 12-16 range when we got to Rutgers. Beating #15 and undefeated Rutgers at Rutgers might have moved us up a little bit more. Then the top 10 showdown versus Louisville where we crush them. Then we go on to Mizzou.
If you don;t think that beating a preseason #2 (and in some publications #1) USC would have gotten us credibility, then I don't know what to to tell you. In the 09-10 basketball season we basically hung our hat on that NYC win against then #4 UNC. The same UNC team that played in the NIT. It doesn't matter that UNC ended up sucking, the only thing that matters as far as the polls is where they were when you beat them.
And this year the BE had three teams ranked at various points through the year. In this fantasy, the BE would have had four ranked teams though only one, Syracuse standing in for 2007 WVU, would have beaten a Top 5 out of conference power program. Despite our struggles recently, we're in the club that UConn and Rutgers (in spite of the B1G membership) and Louisville never will be. For better or worse, college football is the only sport where what you did 50 years ago matters as much as what you do today, and 50 years ago we had a guy winning a Heisman that had a movie made about his life.
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So you think an undefeated SU gets into the NC game over either ND or Bama? You can't be serious. And here is another question ... if FSU won out and SU won out and ND won out ... which two play for the title? Honestly its exactly what you said it is ... a fantasy ... because it a.) didn't happen and b.) the performance of our opponents (specifically USC) as the season wore on would make it harder and harder for us to leapfrog powerful SEC teams or even FSU for that matter. If LVille were in the ACC and played an ACC schedule and kept their OOC as it was I will bet you they would have been top 5 in week 11 at 9-0. Doesn't matter whether its right or wrong perception is everything ... FSU was ranked in the top 10 with 1 loss going into their tilt with UF ... their OOC up that point was a joke ... they played one ranked team (Clemson) ... Sounds a lot like LVille doesn't it (although Cincy was on the fringe just outside the top 25 due to the drop to Toledo) ... well why was FSU ranked higher than the Ville with 1 loss while the Ville was undefeated at that point? I think its pretty clear as to why ...