Class of 2016 SG/SF Andrew White (VA; Grad Transfer from Nebraska)

[iommi]

RF2044 well, if he we wants that face-to-face with JB, he has to wait until after Rio, unless White can take this to the cruise ship the Olympic team is staying on.

 

[Orangeman13]

Orangeman13, what say ye? What have you for the status du jour?

People have got on me for repeating myself but since I haven't posted in a while I can tell you my source says it is all but a done deal.

 

[4evaOrange]

Typing this so I get alerts and hopefully a tag when he commits, not following this tomfoolery again!

 

[hungrychuck]

Nicknack I think we've got this too, but What is the reason for the wait? It's really making less sense every day.

I've never believed the JB is in Rio excuse, but is it possible White's father wants one last face-to-face with JB before signing off? The problem with that theory is it would have to be on the Whites' dime. I'm reaching at this point.

JB just told syracuse.com that it's hard to to get news in Rio. We are dealing with a 71-year-old. He may be searching the cruise ship for the fax edition of the International Herald Tribune.

 

[STEVEHOLT]

White has already tried to commit but apparently the telegraph lines are down in Brazil.

what about the cans connected with strings thingy. can we rig one of them up across the water?

 

[orangefog]

It's hard to get clean water in Brazil. I could see wi-fi being spotty.

Maybe, but if they were smart, Christ the Redeemer would be set up as a huge cell tower. Casting abundant bandwidth down upon the masses.

 

[Papadakis]

lf JB thought he needed one more face to face, he would get on a plane, sleep on the 12 hour flight, meet them and do the same back. Been to Brazil many times, easy to use phone and computer. My guess is the kid is just enjoying his last summer of college and is waiting until the last minute so he can stay home with family and friends.

 

[Day2]

Anyone know if he's taking another visit this weekend?

 

[supp]

I will say that Moyer is a very optimistic guy but he really doesn't seem worried...

Not how I read his sentence but grammatically it's a bit of mess so it's hard to know for sure. I've heard that he broke his foot in a pick-up game.

 

[HoustonCuse]

I've heard sprained. Is broke new information?

 

[Cusefan0307]

Anyone know if he's taking another visit this weekend?

No. Jon Rothstein has reported nothing.

 

[CuseMan4]

Not how I read his sentence but grammatically it's a bit of mess so it's hard to know for sure. I've heard that he broke his foot in a pick-up game.

Yup, most likely needs surgery

 

[Jeremy L.]

Tagging this for the latest AW3 updates.

 

[Nicknack]

Nicknack I think we've got this too, but What is the reason for the wait? It's really making less sense every day.

Yeah, I agree 100% with you in that this is definitely a head scratcher.

Let's take a slightly different tactic here for a moment... what could be the easiest explanation? Maybe Boeheim told him that when he returns from Rio, they will wrap this up and a decision can be announced. Maybe this really is a done deal already and the only people having anxiety over an announcement is us.

 

[orangefog]

Yeah, I agree 100% with you in that this is definitely a head scratcher.

Let's take a slightly different tactic here for a moment... what could be the easiest explanation? Maybe Boeheim told him that when he returns from Rio, they will wrap this up and a decision can be announced. Maybe this really is a done deal already and the only people having anxiety over an announcement is us.

I think it's time to be patient. Speculation is futile and breeds frustration and we know what that does to these threads.

 

[reedny]

Yeah, I agree 100% with you in that this is definitely a head scratcher.

Let's take a slightly different tactic here for a moment... what could be the easiest explanation? Maybe Boeheim told him that when he returns from Rio, they will wrap this up and a decision can be announced. Maybe this really is a done deal already and the only people having anxiety over an announcement is us.

That's probably a good summary of what's going on. There's really no other apparent reason for the delay, since he could commit notwithstanding admission/registration/transcript process. There's also no special rush until classes are to start, so the Rio explanation seems as plausible as any.

 

[asj410]

I think it's time to be patient. Speculation is futile and breeds frustration and we know what that does to these threads.

Yeah, it makes them interesting!














I kid! But yes, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to see this thing continue to drag out without any developments. Just need to keep waiting it out and see what happens in the end.

 

[iommi]

Yeah, I agree 100% with you in that this is definitely a head scratcher.

Let's take a slightly different tactic here for a moment... what could be the easiest explanation? Maybe Boeheim told him that when he returns from Rio, they will wrap this up and a decision can be announced. Maybe this really is a done deal already and the only people having anxiety over an announcement is us.

If it's done, why the visits elsewhere?

 

[Nicknack]

If it's done, why the visits elsewhere?

I don't know, obviously. However, I'll provide an answer even though it's just a guess.

In an effort to keep in line with the simplest explanation since I don't know the answer to your question...

What I said earlier still stands - Both sides agree to wrap this up when Boeheim returns from Rio. The White camp are okay with this but explain that they may take another visit (for various reasons). They visit Miami and not suprisingly, SU is still the best destination and now Andrew waits until Boeheim is back to make the announcement.

I don't think this was decided (by the White camp) until after Boeheim left for Rio. Now that they have (just my guess) they now wait until he gets back.

 

[Devilsadvocate]

If it's done, why the visits elsewhere?

We were told he is close to a coach at Miami. Maybe he felt obligated to at least visit, out of respect?

 

[Day2]

We were told he is close to a coach at Miami. Maybe he felt obligated to at least visit, out of respect?

There are rumors that White promised both MSU and Miami he would visit and was simply fulfilling those promises.

 

[normaliswear]

Miami starts classes the 22nd... not that it should matter VCU starts the 25th. Ya have to think the later it goes the more it looks like cuse. Unless it goes PAST the 29th lol.

 

[Briancuse]

Miami starts classes the 22nd... not that it should matter VCU starts the 25th. Ya have to think the later it goes the more it looks like cuse. Unless it goes PAST the 29th lol.

If it goes past the 29th, hes not going to college.

 

[Zelda Zonk]

It's hard to get clean water in Brazil. I could see wi-fi being spotty.

My last of 25+ Rio trips was almost ten years ago. Wifi, even then, was better than "spotty."

If i were the Senior White and wanted a "face-to-face" to get confirmation of any types of arrangements before 'authorizing' a commitment, i'd prolly do it via Skype, and record the whole thing...

If he's waiting for something else — another type of thing that might be handled 'face to face,' i'd hope he would be waiting a long time. Like, infinity.

Whatever the reason/s, this is all ridiculous. It's not even such a critical decision for AWIII. KD took less time to commit to Golden State, and that was a matter of a lot of money and a professional reputation. If AWIII is good enough to be drafted by the NBA, he should be able to go to MSU, Miami, or SU without a guarantee, do his work, and make his mark. If he can't make a notable dent in those places, the location is pretty much irrelevant. I think, admittedly as a clueless outsider, that he should have had a better headstart on a firm plan before jumping. I recognize deadlines propelled his filing for transfer, but, it seems like he said, "i'm out" before knowing if his options would indeed be better than the status quo. Must have been a very bad situation in Nebraska. I would think that choosing a team now, sooner rather than at the last possible moment, would be in his best interests. Getting on campus, and solidifying his part of the team, and making positive impressions so that playing time isn't going to be decided based on guesswork/faith... that kind of thing seems as important as which school he chooses.

Was there any info on why he chose Nebraska to begin with? Coming out of Kansas, couldn't he have chosen a more 'resumé-friendly' destination, since that seems like such a critical factor for him now? Was Nebraska ever considered to be an NCAA team with potential?

 

[Flacusian]

My last of 25+ Rio trips was almost ten years ago. Wifi, even then, was better than "spotty."

If i were the Senior White and wanted a "face-to-face" to get confirmation of any types of arrangements before 'authorizing' a commitment, i'd prolly do it via Skype, and record the whole thing...

If he's waiting for something else — another type of thing that might be handled 'face to face,' i'd hope he would be waiting a long time. Like, infinity.

Whatever the reason/s, this is all ridiculous. It's not even such a critical decision for AWIII. KD took less time to commit to Golden State, and that was a matter of a lot of money and a professional reputation. If AWIII is good enough to be drafted by the NBA, he should be able to go to MSU, Miami, or SU without a guarantee, do his work, and make his mark. If he can't make a notable dent in those places, the location is pretty much irrelevant. I think, admittedly as a clueless outsider, that he should have had a better headstart on a firm plan before jumping. I recognize deadlines propelled his filing for transfer, but, it seems like he said, "i'm out" before knowing if his options would indeed be better than the status quo. Must have been a very bad situation in Nebraska. I would think that choosing a team now, sooner rather than at the last possible moment, would be in his best interests. Getting on campus, and solidifying his part of the team, and making positive impressions so that playing time isn't going to be decided based on guesswork/faith... that kind of thing seems as important as which school he chooses.

Was there any info on why he chose Nebraska to begin with? Coming out of Kansas, couldn't he have chosen a more 'resumé-friendly' destination, since that seems like such a critical factor for him now? Was Nebraska ever considered to be an NCAA team with potential?

Excellent points. It boils down to the fact that it's impossible to come up with a rational explanation because the entire situation on the face of it seems irrational. I have to give AW3 some props simply for keeping his cards close to his chest and not overtly sending out mixed messages or using twitter to post cryptic stuff which seems to be the norm these days. I also give him credit for what would appear to be a measured and well thought out weighing of the merits of various places which would have him. As has been pointed out here before, a kid who has already been involved with 2 programs which did not pan out as he had hoped would be wise to carefully undertake due diligence in selecting the program which would best serve as a platform for improving his game and his marketability as he works towards making it to the NBA.

I think there is no question that he would be a valuable addition to our roster or anyones for that matter. It's beginning to look like we are going to have to be patient and let this unfold on AW3's timetable and at best we get a definitive answer when JB returns from Rio or the other scenario being that things will be made public on or around the 29th. I feel optimistic on account of Orangeman13's continual reaffirmation of the fact that AW3 is in fact coming. For now, that's going to have to be good enough for me.