Benny Williams dismissed from program

[kcsu]

All I know is that I’ve seen enough to know that JJ isn’t a starting PG at this level.

Think we end up rolling with a transfer PG /Q at the point.

If I had to guess….

PG-Portal will get the most minutes. Q could be token starter to appease him.
2G - JJ
SF- Bell if he’s back. Q if he’s not
SF- Freeman
C- Maliq - which concerns me.

Bench -Westry/Moore/Mcleod/Cuffe

Have a feeling either Bell or Taylor portals.
I think we pick up a stretch “4” in the portal to go along with a PG.

Not sure what Carey does, but frankly I’d rather keep him. Mcleod’s health worries me. And I’d rather Brown get more minutes at the 4.

Hima Judah are gone for sure as well as either Bell or Taylor.

What's the story on the 7 foot freshman

 

[sufandu]

Red also mentioned that with dedication and a proper strength and conditioning program JT could be the next Rick Jackson.









Jk

He does have great height for a DT.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

He’s not plug and play. He’s plug in if the rest of your team is set.

Yeah, all I'm going to say here is Syracuse fans are doing that thing again where they're looking at their best players and over indexing on the things they want them to do well that they don't, and are massively under rating the things the player does well.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

What's the story on the 7 foot freshman

Griff said Patterson is better as a freshman than Jesse was.

If that's true, and he's on the same developmental trajectory, he could give competent backup 5 minutes next season.

 

[hoopsupstate]

Griff said Patterson is better as a freshman than Jesse was.

If that's true, and he's on the same developmental trajectory, he could give competent backup 5 minutes next season.

Just watching him move he appears very athletic. 7’2” is a big dude. He could be the surprise next year. I would not be surprised if Red does not bring in a center next year. With McCloud, Patterson and Carey back (assuming they all return), I’m not sure Red will want another big. I think you see a lot of Brown and Freeman on the floor together.

 

[CousCuse]

Griff said Patterson is better as a freshman than Jesse was.

If that's true, and he's on the same developmental trajectory, he could give competent backup 5 minutes next season.

If that's the case he could help the team this year. If Edwards came back, this team would be a dark horse in the tourney. Next year is a whole new set of circumstances. The 2 games they've lost recently was because of lack of size down low.

 

[SWC75]

My write-ups on McLeod, Carey and Patterson in my Basketball Preview last October incldued these highlight clips:

With a guy this big, you wonder if he’s really a basketball player or just a big guy who was convinced to play basketball. I’d say he’s a basketball player who happens to be 7-4:


That doesn’t leave much in the way of highlight films. This one, which appears to be prior to his knee problems, shows a springy, fast and athletic kid who hustles:

Peter Carey Highlights - video Dailymotion

The same question applies to William Patterson, our only high school recruit. Is he playing basketball because he’s 7-2 or is a basketball player who is 7-2? Again, I see a basketball player who is 7-2:

Where will big man William Patterson commit? | Syracuse At The Top of His List?!?!

Proven big guys don't grow on trees in the portal and those that will be available will either go for the NIL like Jesse did or sign with the natty contenders like Hunter Dickinson who went to Kansas. I think Red will try to see if he can develop a good center out of the above three. He's also play multiple line-ups depending on the development of those players and the opposition.

 

[Cusefan0307]

If that's the case he could help the team this year. If Edwards came back, this team would be a dark horse in the tourney. Next year is a whole new set of circumstances. The 2 games they've lost recently was because of lack of size down low.

They lost to Georgia Tech and Clemson because we couldn’t friggin score.

 

[MikeSU02]

Yeah, all I'm going to say here is Syracuse fans are doing that thing again where they're looking at their best players and over indexing on the things they want them to do well that they don't, and are massively under rating the things the player does well.

An elite catch and shoot three point shooter isn’t a guy you build a team around.

It’s how you round out a team.

He got hunted on defense a few games ago and they ran thru him like a hot knife through butter. Is a two dribble player.

I want Bell back. I think he’s gotten better. But I don’t agree that his one thing is something a big time program is building around, it’s a final piece.

 

[Fly Rodder]

Griff said Patterson is better as a freshman than Jesse was.

That sounds like coaches talking. Maybe he feels that Will has more potential than Jesse did as a frosh. Jesse played in 21 games in limited minutes and had pretty good numbers despite having Marek and Bourama in front of him freshman year. This season a frosh like that could definitely be helpful.

ETA: just looked, As a frosh, Jesse played 160 minutes over 21 games as the 9th guy off the bench. He had 35 rebounds, 50 points, and 10 blocks with 21 fouls. For comparison, this season Carey and Hima have combined for 13 games and 121 minutes this season totaling 18 rebounds, 13 points, and 5 blocks.

 

[MikeSU02]

That sounds like coaches talking. Maybe he feels that Will has more potential than Jesse did as a frosh. Jesse played in 21 games in limited minutes and had pretty good numbers despite having Marek and Bourama in front of him freshman year. This season a frosh like that could definitely be helpful.

Coach pumps up his own recruit, sun rises in the east, etc etc.

Hope Patterson works out. But we need to see it.

 

[br801]

That sounds like coaches talking. Maybe he feels that Will has more potential than Jesse did as a frosh. Jesse played in 21 games in limited minutes and had pretty good numbers despite having Marek and Bourama in front of him freshman year. This season a frosh like that could definitely be helpful.

Yes. If he was that guy, he would be getting regular minutes in the rotation at center.

 

[CousCuse]

They lost to Georgia Tech and Clemson because we couldn’t friggin score.

A few more rebounds could have tilted both games to the Orange. If Carey is going to get some minutes, he needs to learn the volleyball slap back to the guards with with one hand, that would translate in to a few more possessions.

 

[JarHeadJim]

This guy would of helped.

Quincy Ballard - Wichita State Shockers Center - ESPN

View the profile of Wichita State Shockers Center Quincy Ballard on ESPN. Get the latest news, live stats and game highlights.

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[Cusefan0307]

This guy would of helped.

Quincy Ballard - Wichita State Shockers Center - ESPN

View the profile of Wichita State Shockers Center Quincy Ballard on ESPN. Get the latest news, live stats and game highlights.

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Funny, no one here wanted to touch him and he’s playing solid this season.

 

[Cheriehoop]

This guy would of helped.

Quincy Ballard - Wichita State Shockers Center - ESPN

View the profile of Wichita State Shockers Center Quincy Ballard on ESPN. Get the latest news, live stats and game highlights.

www.espn.com

He visited SU.

How Quincy Ballard’s official visit to Syracuse went

Quincy Ballard, a 7-foot center, is in the transfer portal after two years at Florida State.

www.syracuse.com

We got his former FSU teammate, McLeod, who played more at FSU than Quincy.

Quincy Ballard College Stats | College Basketball at Sports-Reference.com

Quincy Ballard - Stats, Game Logs, Splits, and much more

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Naheem McLeod College Stats | College Basketball at Sports-Reference.com

Naheem McLeod - Stats, Game Logs, Splits, and much more

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[Cheriehoop]

Wonder if Kenny Payne at Louisville is let go, if there’s anyone we’d be interested in? There’s their center Brandon Huntley-Hatfield who averaged 12.5 points and 8.6 rebounds in 31 minutes played/game.

Brandon Huntley-Hatfield College Stats | College Basketball at Sports-Reference.com

Brandon Huntley-Hatfield - Stats, Game Logs, Splits, and much more

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[RF2044]

Wonder if Kenny Payne at Louisville is let go, if there’s anyone we’d be interested in? There’s their center Brandon Huntley-Hatfield who averaged 12.5 points and 8.6 rebounds in 31 minutes played/game.

Brandon Huntley-Hatfield College Stats | College Basketball at Sports-Reference.com

Brandon Huntley-Hatfield - Stats, Game Logs, Splits, and much more

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We were recruiting him at one point, before he opted for Tennessee.

However, I wonder if Red has ANOTHER potential Tennessee transfer on his radar...

J.P. Estrella 2023-24 Stats per Game - NCAAM - ESPN

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[JarHeadJim]

Wonder if Kenny Payne at Louisville is let go, if there’s anyone we’d be interested in? There’s their center Brandon Huntley-Hatfield who averaged 12.5 points and 8.6 rebounds in 31 minutes played/game.

Brandon Huntley-Hatfield College Stats | College Basketball at Sports-Reference.com

Brandon Huntley-Hatfield - Stats, Game Logs, Splits, and much more

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Yes please!

 

[jr4750]

He visited SU.

How Quincy Ballard’s official visit to Syracuse went

Quincy Ballard, a 7-foot center, is in the transfer portal after two years at Florida State.

www.syracuse.com

We got his former FSU teammate, McLeod, who played more at FSU than Quincy.

Quincy Ballard College Stats | College Basketball at Sports-Reference.com

Quincy Ballard - Stats, Game Logs, Splits, and much more

www.sports-reference.com

Naheem McLeod College Stats | College Basketball at Sports-Reference.com

Naheem McLeod - Stats, Game Logs, Splits, and much more

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Didn’t he turn us down twice? Once when he went to FSU and then again this past year?

 

[Cheriehoop]

Didn’t he turn us down twice? Once when he went to FSU and then again this past year?

Could be - but it wasn’t because he was ignored by the staff. We did get the seemingly more productive center from FSU.

 

[jdubs30]

The only guy I’m 99.999% certain (that’s because nothing is 100%) is back next year is JJ. He’s our starting SG and our scoring guard - I think he’ll be around 16ppg next year

I am sure Red will do everything he can keep Maliq and Q.

Bell is interesting because if he goes to a “better” team in the portal, his role will most likely be limited compared even the role he had here this year. He has a green light now and is playing a lot. Would he want to go closer to home and be say the 7th man for a team like Arizona?

Right now if we just add a portal pass first PG, JJ comes back at the 2, Freeman at the 4, Brown at the 5 - Bell will get a ton of shots.

I think Bell has it pretty good here - unless someone offers a huge bag or he wants to go closer to West Coast - I’m not sure why he’d leave

 

[M2MPrinciples]

We don't need an Edey-Clingan-Bacot-Dickinson cyborg, but we do need a C who can soak up 25 MPG and finish at the rim, win rebounding battles and either block shots or be such a menace down low that opponents don't want to test him. I don't see that anywhere on our roster.

 

[Ragman2000]

After finally getting the details on Benny's transgressions this year from someone who would know, I've never been more happy that Red cut bait. I don't think it's a coincidence that the team is really taking off with him gone. We don't need bad influences on this team.

 

[Fly Rodder]

C- Maliq - which concerns me.

Bench -Westry/Moore/Mcleod/Cuffe

Have a feeling either Bell or Taylor portals.
I think we pick up a stretch “4” in the portal to go along with a PG.

I posted my recommendation on the recruiting side:
Yaxel Lendeborg. 6'9" 240-ish, 7'3" wingspan, 80%+ FT shooter, can make a three. Originally from NJ with one year of eligibility left. Two-time JUCO All American and had a lot of D1 interest last spring. First committed to Mike Anderson at St Johns before he was replaced with Pitino, then went to UAB and has proven his JUCO play wasn't just because of poor competition.

Yaxel Lendeborg College Stats | College Basketball at Sports-Reference.com

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I have high confidence that he's going to be on a top-25 team next season. I'd like it to be Syracuse.

ETA: I just don't how or which players are going to get sold on a bench role. It's tough to keep guys who want to start and its tough to recruit players to a bench spot if they're being offered starting roles - all other things considered.