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Message: [QUOTE="Orangezoo, post: 5644833, member: 237"] Fran had the program ranked his first year and helped multiple guys get into the NFL before an awful year 2. Red got us a 5 seed in the NIT before a disastrous second year and is screwing up a roster good enough to be top 25 this year to the tune of just as bad a year as last. He also has done nothing to put guys in the league. The two aren’t the same at this point. Not to mention a huge difference in their abilities as leaders. [/QUOTE]