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Message: [QUOTE="storange, post: 1251200, member: 171"] I just don't buy that, Teams like TCU Boise State, Cent Florida, ect...come from nowhere to have 10 win seasons and get major bowl bids. You need the right coach and the right plan but it can be done here. I just don't buy the 7 wins is the best we can hope for. I heard the same during the late 70s and early 80s. Winning a NC is a long shot at best, but putting up 9 or 10 win seasons is possible, not easy but possible. If I thought 7 win seasons were the best I could hope for I would end my 20 something years of season tickets today. [/QUOTE]