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Message: [QUOTE="orangecuse, post: 2912255, member: 668"] I didn't forget. You're the one that appears hell bent on the fact that Jones going down with the injury 5 minutes in and us down 14-2 was basically irrelevant. Jones' hounding ball pressure was a huge reason for our putrid start, both Frank and Carey struggling considerably with live ball turnovers, not being able to get our offense into any semblance of one, etc. Once Jones was out, our guards were able to take them/have success off the dribble, penetration, etc. Peculiarly, again, you point out that O'Connell played 34 minutes and had an "efficient" 16 points, yet fail to see that his 34 minutes also immensely contributed to our guards success as he was a liability on the defensive end. [/QUOTE]