10, 6, 9, 11, 7, 12, 9, 14...

[Scooch]

No, that’s not the code from Lost, that’s the number of penalties SU has racked up in each game this season.

That, my friends, is horrific, abysmal, and embarrassing.

This outlandish amount of penalties is indicative of a program that has lost all sense of focus, precision and discipline.

Sometimes you just get beat. It happens. But there is no excuse for these numbers. The staff needs to take a lonnnng look in the mirror and figure out how to correct it for next season.

 

[FloridaFan]

What did it for me was when we were at like the two and then had 2 straight penalties. Then it was like 1 and 30 or something and we got bailed out by a facemask or somethong

 

[OttoinGrotto]

Yeah, that sucks.

 

[djorange1989]

Those penalties are coming mainly from the heinous OL and from dumb personal fouls, both annoying and undisciplined. Time to clean some house on the staff, in the locker room and time to bring in some impact transfers.

 

[dasher]

Those penalties are coming mainly from the heinous OL and from dumb personal fouls, both annoying and undisciplined. Time to clean some house on the staff, in the locker room and time to bring in some impact transfers.

If you were an impact transfer, would you want to come here now? After last year, we should have recruited better transfers. A big missed opportunity.

 

[djorange1989]

If you were an impact transfer, would you want to come here now? After last year, we should have recruited better transfers. A big missed opportunity.

Illinois has been a dumpster fire for years, they have the best transfer in America destroying QBs. Playing time to be had, that’s what they want

 

[orangepassion]

Can't believe Vettorello hasn't been benched at all with all his False Starts, even if only for a drive. It was Bergeron's 1st game and he still had less False Starts than him. There's no consequences for repeated mistakes.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

If you were an impact transfer, would you want to come here now? After last year, we should have recruited better transfers. A big missed opportunity.

Two thoughts.

First, we've gotta stop downgrading our own program. There are still great opportunities here for players.

Second, we got some really nice players late in the cycle last season like Jones and Kpongba. I wouldn't trade what they're going to bring for the unknown of "unnamed impact transfers" and it felt like we closed the class last year pretty well.

 

[elimunelson]

That’s coaching.

 

[FloridaFan]

One question about penalties. One play I saw a FSU DL jump and I think vet jumped right after and it was called false start? Is the defense not held to the same standard of false start as Offense?

 

[djorange1989]

One question about penalties. One play I saw a FSU DL jump and I think vet jumped right after and it was called false start? Is the defense not held to the same standard of false start as Offense?

Defense can jump, just not into the neutral zone. Offensive line cannot move at all

 

[FloridaFan]

Defense can jump, just not into the neutral zone. Offensive line cannot move at all

Thanks. I didn’t understand why we got called for it at the time

 

[Chip]

It’s a systemic problem but the PF call on Vettorello was as bad as the one on Alton last week. They should be able to review these garbage calls like they do targeting. I don’t want to extend games but 15 yards is 15 yards.

I never saw Iffy’s but the lasting image of that TD is the WR trying to rip his helmet off. So I don’t know why that wasn’t offsetting.

It doesn’t excuse us but I’d bet penalties are up all over because of the way games are called.

The frequency of our false starts is unacceptable.

 

[Scooch]

It’s a systemic problem but the PF call on Vettorello was as bad as the one on Alton last week. They should be able to review these garbage calls like they do targeting. I don’t want to extend games but 15 yards is 15 yards.

I never saw Iffy’s but the lasting image of that TD is the WR trying to rip his helmet off. So I don’t know why that wasn’t offsetting.

It doesn’t excuse us but I’d bet penalties are up all over because of the way games are called.

The frequency of our false starts is unacceptable.

There are definitely multiple BS calls every game. But that’s the sport, it is ridiculously over-officiated.

However, we rack up an insane amount of procedural penalties: false starts, illegal formations, etc. We have far too little margin for error, even in the best of times, for the staff to tolerate that.

Yesterday my favorite was Harris getting flagged for a false start minutes after having one of his patented hissy fits directed at the QB. Why he saw another snap after the penalty (let alone the yapping) is beyond me. My kid’s Pee Wee hockey coach would’ve benched him for something like that sequence

 

[Trueblue25]

Coaching

 

[phil77]

Another thing that points to an undisciplined team is Taj. Three weeks in a row Taj has shown emotional outbursts on the sidelines. That just can't be tolerated at all. Once fine he is a kid, lets have a teaching moment. Instead, Taj has done it three weeks in a row and continues to start and get 90% of the snaps.

Dino needs to take control...

 

[anomander]

Yep. It's one thing to lose, and get dominated while doing so. Penalties, that's undisciplined, unfocused, garbage. I'm not sure what's going on up there, but penalties is the one thing that you can control

 

[reedny]

I was as disappointed as anyone else in the first half - we didn't look ready to play on either side of the ball. And the lack of chemistry between TD and our receivers is baffling at this point in the schedule.

But looking at the game as a whole, there were some positives: 1) TD looked much better scrambling. That is a wrinkle we haven't had and it's another factor for the defense to account for; 2) for the first time against an ACC opponent, it didn't seem like the officials were actively trying to screw us. The Iffy call was bad but overall the officiating was 100x fairer than it was for Pitt or Clemson.

And 3) the OL actually seemed like it was coming together in the second half. Our guys kept fighting, even if FSU had some backups in. I liked our attitude, and those late TD's gave the offense something to build on.

 

[qdawgg]

I was as disappointed as anyone else in the first half - we didn't look ready to play on either side of the ball. And the lack of chemistry between TD and our receivers is baffling at this point in the schedule.

But looking at the game as a whole, there were some positives: 1) TD looked much better scrambling. That is a wrinkle we haven't had and it's another factor for the defense to account for; 2) for the first time against an ACC opponent, it didn't seem like the officials were actively trying to screw us. The Iffy call was bad but overall the officiating was 100x fairer than it was for Pitt or Clemson.

And 3) the OL actually seemed like it was coming together in the second half. Our guys kept fighting, even if FSU had some backups in. I liked our attitude, and those late TD's gave our offense something to build on.

I thought the OL played pretty well the first half too, purely from a blocking perspective. TD had time to throw but continues to focus on one guy, hold the ball too long, and threw pretty poorly the first half especially. I don’t fault the OL play when FSU was clearly blitzing and we audible our RB out wide and the OL gets overrun

 

[kuethstheman]

False starts by linemen are a symptom of being overmatched. Like a golfer with so many swing thoughts, he forgets the basics.

The rest of it? Maybe the staff is a little too tolerant.

 

[tbonezone]

dino likes to talk "family" . it's time for papa to take off the belt and whup some a$$.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

I was as disappointed as anyone else in the first half - we didn't look ready to play on either side of the ball. And the lack of chemistry between TD and our receivers is baffling at this point in the schedule.

But looking at the game as a whole, there were some positives: 1) TD looked much better scrambling. That is a wrinkle we haven't had and it's another factor for the defense to account for; 2) for the first time against an ACC opponent, it didn't seem like the officials were actively trying to screw us. The Iffy call was bad but overall the officiating was 100x fairer than it was for Pitt or Clemson.

And 3) the OL actually seemed like it was coming together in the second half. Our guys kept fighting, even if FSU had some backups in. I liked our attitude, and those late TD's gave our offense something to build on.

Yeah, DeVito's scrambles were good to see. Seemed much more aware and of when to go and the yard marker.

 

[SaltineWarrior]

We have become the undisciplined teams from FSU and Miami, minus the "off-the-chart" talent that would often overcome those stupid mistakes. It is embarrassing and as previous people mentioned, there should be consequences to the same few that are committing these mental mistakes over and over again.

The fact that we don't see repeat offenders benched tells me the backups are nowhere close to the guys in front of them. Thats even more disheartening. It has taken a guy who literally came to practice one day and then quit the team the next for a change on the offensive line. Otherwise nobody seems to be taken out due to these repeated and correctable mistakes.

I can understand and appreciate when this team is not the most talented team on the field. That is supposed to happen. I can't understand when a coach like Dino has a team that gives the opponents as many penalty yards. I fear there is something wrong internally that we as fans don't know. Maybe if I was on the pay side, I would know.