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Message: [QUOTE="OrangeDW, post: 2848128, member: 2458"] NC State- 1. Lol. Can people stop pretending like they’ve ever been a program that matters? You would’ve thought we were going up against some tradition rich southern power with a rabid fanbase when they were selecting the Camping World Bowl teams, the way some talked. Edit: also, they finally shut me up a few years ago once it became apparent that the first few years of this decade were not a blip on the radar, but Clemson’s history was/is completely overplayed. Used to drive me nuts in the early years of our ACC run how people acted like they were this historic power that was always good. They’ve had an incredible decade though. [/QUOTE]