111th in yards per play

[Millhouse]

We were 117th in 2005, 113th in 06, 110th in 07, 100th in 08

 

[Ozcuse]

Gergian Revival

 

[Orangejet]

What a disaster this season.

 

[CuseLegacy]

We were 117th in 2005, 113th in 06, 110th in 07, 100th in 08

Just curious, what were we 2016, 2017 and 2018?

 

[Chip]

So what I'm hearing is that Mitch Browning > Brian White/Mike Lynch > Brian Pariani

I just looked up Mitch Browning for giggles. He's at something called a Baker University in his first season revolutionizing the running game (I might have made up that last part).

 

[Millhouse]

Just curious, what were we 2016, 2017 and 2018?

67 in 18, 95th in 17, 84th in 16

Few flaws with YPP

read option teams can just take easy 5 yards that is good for the team. a risk free 5 yards makes your team better and your yards per play worse. we also went for it a lot on 4th down - gaining 2 yards on 4th helps your team, hurts your yards per play

but overall it tells you how good your offense is, it's not perfect but it passes the eyeball test sorting teams out

last year was turnover luck and decent play getting us from a good to a really good season

 

[orlandoorange]

67 in 18, 95th in 17, 84th in 16

Few flaws with YPP

read option teams can just take easy 5 yards that is good for the team. a risk free 5 yards makes your team better and your yards per play worse. we also went for it a lot on 4th down - gaining 2 yards on 4th helps your team, hurts your yards per play

but overall it tells you how good your offense is, it's not perfect but it passes the eyeball test sorting teams out

last year was turnover luck and decent play getting us from a good to a really good season

Turnover luck goes a long way I think, we were top 10 in margin I believe

 

[Cuse12]

This is appalling. An absolute disaster in terms of expectations and reality. I can’t believe we are like GERG level bad on offense. Just wow. What do we do from here is the real question? I think dino is who exactly who we want at the helm for the remainder of his career, but I think it’s time for the AD to step in and be the enforcer of this kind of convo “Dino here are the stats I’m looking at. We have to get better, and we need higher profile and proven assistants in these areas”

 

[RF2044]

67 in 18, 95th in 17, 84th in 16

Few flaws with YPP

read option teams can just take easy 5 yards that is good for the team. a risk free 5 yards makes your team better and your yards per play worse. we also went for it a lot on 4th down - gaining 2 yards on 4th helps your team, hurts your yards per play

but overall it tells you how good your offense is, it's not perfect but it passes the eyeball test sorting teams out

last year was turnover luck and decent play getting us from a good to a really good season

Turnovers plus quite favorable field position most games.

Plus substantially better play at both OTs, and a QB who could move the ball.

All interrelated.

 

[Millhouse]

So what I'm hearing is that Mitch Browning > Brian White/Mike Lynch > Brian Pariani

I just looked up Mitch Browning for giggles. He's at something called a Baker University in his first season revolutionizing the running game (I might have made up that last part).

you have to be crazy to want to be a football coach. guy spends his life being regular football guy working 100 hrs a week, goes all in on piles of guys pushing people around, then wake up one day to find out that everyone's figured out that it's easier to not get tackled if you don't have to get through a pile of fat guys. all of a sudden your skills aren't valued anymore. i honestly feel bad for him, i'm sure he's just as good as other coaches, he just went all in on the wrong ideas.

 

[Millhouse]

This is appalling. An absolute disaster in terms of expectations and reality. I can’t believe we are like GERG level bad on offense. Just wow. What do we do from here is the real question? I think dino is who exactly who we want at the helm for the remainder of his career, but I think it’s time for the AD to step in and be the enforcer of this kind of convo “Dino here are the stats I’m looking at. We have to get better, and we need higher profile and proven assistants in these areas”

i don't know enough about recruiting. i have a bias and a suspicion that babers approach doesn't appeal to the snarling meathead gym coaches around here who don't want to send their fat guys to play somewhere where they don't get to eat a jar of peanut butter between plays.

we keep depending on grad transfers

 

[Ozcuse]

i don't know enough about recruiting. i have a bias and a suspicion that babers approach doesn't appeal to the snarling meathead gym coaches around here who don't want to send their fat guys to play somewhere where they don't get to eat a jar of peanut butter between plays.

we keep depending on grad transfers

You owe me a new keyboard sir

 

[RF2044]

i don't know enough about recruiting. i have a bias and a suspicion that babers approach doesn't appeal to the snarling meathead gym coaches around here who don't want to send their fat guys to play somewhere where they don't get to eat a jar of peanut butter between plays.

we keep depending on grad transfers

I wish we could hire the OL coach from when Mike Leach was at Texas Tech

 

[Eric15]

We were 117th in 2005, 113th in 06, 110th in 07, 100th in 08

This and being 126th in penalties are very concerning.

 

[Millhouse]

I wish we could hire the OL coach from when Mike Leach was at Texas Tech

leach just recruits big fat slobs, splits them far apart, has them get in the way and hopes the qb gets it out in time if they get beat (the wide splits gives the qb an extra second)

our lineman are way too confused half the time. double teaming nobody too much

 

[OttoinGrotto]

leach just recruits big fat slobs, splits them far apart, has them get in the way and hopes the qb gets it out in time if they get beat (the wide splits gives the qb an extra second)

our lineman are way too confused half the time. double teaming nobody too much

I think, talent wise, our line probably isn't that great.

But they would perform a lot better if they were on the same page, and that might be enough to make us functional.

 

[RF2044]

leach just recruits big fat slobs, splits them far apart, has them get in the way and hopes the qb gets it out in time if they get beat (the wide splits gives the qb an extra second)

our lineman are way too confused half the time. double teaming nobody too much

I was talking more about the scheme:

 

[Millhouse]

I was talking more about the scheme:


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Yep. If our tackles are going to get beat like a drum every play, i'd rather have them beat way the hell over there

 

[FrancoPizza]

Remember when we ran that occasional formation where 3 linemen would line up way across the field as if they were participating in a bubble screen? I think deleone is the one who tried it? It was a gimmick and nothing ever came of it.

 

[Millhouse]

Remember when we ran that occasional formation where 3 linemen would line up way across the field as if they were participating in a bubble screen? I think deleone is the one who tried it? It was a gimmick and nothing ever came of it.

Baneiwicz or however you spell his name - at cincy - some guy named mongo murdered every other lineman. maybe they were just trying to save one of their better lineman from the carnage