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Message: [QUOTE="dodger, post: 1192153, member: 2845"] If anyone wonders why the lack of fan support. SU's record for 13 years is 60 wins and 95 losses. This is from the last 3 years of Coach P, 4 years of Robinson, 4 years of Marrone, and thus far this year with Shafer. Lets not forget that the three times we made it to a bowl game, part way thru those seasons it looked iffy then the team pulled it out. Before anyone comes up with excuses. Remember excuses are for losers. College Football is a results business. [/QUOTE]