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Message: [QUOTE="jncuse, post: 4565656, member: 1969"] Indiana and UCLA have dropped out of the first tier due to performance in modern times ( the last 20 years) Hate to say this, but we are now getting close to 10 years with not really playing near the level of a "second tier program". Were there for now, but if we have another 5-6 years of this ****, then the modern passage of time factor will come into play for us too, and we may no longer be that "second tier" program either. [/QUOTE]