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Message: [QUOTE="A Clockwork Orange, post: 1514274, member: 16"] My feelings exactly at this point. To anyone under the age of 30, we are Wake Forest. And they've had more recent big time success. We all like to cling onto the fact that we are a traditional power, but in order to keep tradition, there needs to be some recent success at some point. Otherwise, you become Army, Harvard, Yale, etc... we are not a big time player right now. This game was so depressing, because starting with the final drive for UVA at the end of the 4th quarter, I already knew the outcome. This program can't win games they need to, and can't put away sh!tty teams when they need to. That's on coaching. We have young talent, but what does that mean? I hope it means we will continue to get better, but it's really difficult to see that after sitting through 15 years of these kind of losses. And for the person above who said "were it not for a bobble snap at the 2, and Zaire's facemask, we win this game" God bless you. I wish I had your faith at this point. I've seen too many of those "but if this happened, and this happened, we would have won" posts over the years. At some point, when does bad luck just simply become a bad program? Truth is, we don't have margin for error. So we have to be close to perfect in all facets. A team that is disciplined EVERY SINGLE PLAY. A team that makes the tackles it needs to make every time. If we don't do that, we lose. For 15 years, that has been the case. We haven't found a coach, or a system that gives us the opportunity to overcome. Marrone was the closest, because that team played pretty disciplined most of the time. And they needed to, because our talent wasn't enough. Now we have better talent, but we're still not controlling the controllables the way we need to. And Julian Whigham needs to sit, I have always hoped for the best for him, because I loved the back story. I also loved his sophomore year. Dude is a liability right now though. [/QUOTE]

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