2 P5 games -101st in pts/game, 24th in yards/play

[Millhouse]

i know we've talked about it til we're blue in the face

but oh my god that is unbelievable

Here's is the sorted list of each teams ranking in p5 yards per play minus their points per game. If you're at the top of this list, it means you gain lots of yards and can't score.

fwiw last year we were 38th on this list

NameGap
Syracuse77
Wyoming62
Stanford59
San Diego State55
Illinois53
Rice53
Miami (Florida)48
Navy47
UNLV42
Cincinnati40
Wisconsin40
Georgia Southern34
Rutgers31
Tulane28
Buffalo27
Colorado State23
Alabama21
Akron21
Troy21
South Alabama21
Boise State20
UAB17
Pittsburgh17
Army17
Southern Mississippi17
LSU16
Northern Illinois16
Louisiana-Lafayette16
Penn State16
West Virginia14
Boston College14
Texas13
Arizona State12
Purdue11
Auburn10
Maryland10
Ohio9
Oregon7
Arkansas7
Middle Tennessee6
Kansas State5
Vanderbilt5
Michigan State4
Toledo4
Kansas4
UCLA3
New Mexico State3
Florida Atlantic3
Washington State2
Texas Tech2
San Jose State2
Tulsa2
SMU2
Central Michigan1
East Carolina0
North Carolina0
Massachusetts0
Mississippi State-1
TCU-1
Miami (Ohio)-1
Oklahoma-2
Georgia Tech-2
Oregon State-2
Iowa-2
Michigan-2
Minnesota-3
California-4
Texas A&M-4
Western Michigan-4
Kent State-4
Georgia-5
Duke-5
New Mexico-5
Kentucky-6
Missouri-6
Indiana-6
Louisiana-Monroe-6
South Carolina-7
Mississippi-7
South Florida-7
Wake Forest-7
North Carolina State-8
Appalachian State-8
Louisiana Tech-9
Eastern Michigan-9
Florida State-10
Virginia-10
Notre Dame-11
UCF-12
Old Dominion-13
Ohio State-14
Tennessee-14
Nebraska-15
Florida International-16
USC-18
Northwestern-18
Utah State-18
Georgia State-18
Ball State-18
Louisville-19
Clemson-20
Nevada-20
UTSA-20
Iowa State-21
Fresno State-23
Colorado-24
North Texas-25
Arizona-27
Hawai'i-27
Memphis-28
Oklahoma State-29
Florida-30
Arkansas State-32
UTEP-34
Baylor-37
Bowling Green-37
Western Kentucky-38
Virginia Tech-43
Texas State-45
Utah-46
Washington-54
BYU-58
Temple-80

 

[Alsacs]

McDonald was the OC for 14 games against P5 teams we scored 230 points or 16.4 points per game.

Against our 4 non-P5 opponents we scored 173 points or 43.3 points per game.

McDonald was horrible against teams with equal or more talent. We only scored over 30 points against 1 P5 team last years season finale against Boston College and we only scored 34 points.

Plain and simple I don't care about yards all I want is points. Coaches don't care if they give up all the yards as long as their opponent's aren't putting up 7 each possession.

 

[Millhouse]

McDonald was the OC for 14 games against P5 teams we scored 230 points or 16.4 points per game.

Against our 4 non-P5 opponents we scored 173 points or 43.3 points per game.

McDonald was horrible against teams with equal or more talent. We only scored over 30 points against 1 P5 team last years season finale against Boston College and we only scored 34 points.

Plain and simple I don't care about yards all I want is points. Coaches don't care if they give up all the yards as long as their opponent's aren't putting up 7 each possession.

we're getting fooled into thinking there's a weaker relationship between yards and points than there is.

there's a 90% correlation between yards rank and points rank last year

we are the weird team

in baseball OPS leads to runs. mcdonald was like a manager that calls 2 strike bunts with the bases loaded

 

[Alsacs]

we're getting fooled into thinking there's a weaker relationship between yards and points than there is.

there's a 90% correlation between yards rank and points rank last year

we are the weird team

Maybe in college football their is a correlation, but I know in pro football there isn't a correlation. The Patriots have been a horrible team on defense recently giving up tons of yards, but their points given up has been in the top half of the league.
The year the Packers were 15-1 they were 32nd in yards pg given up, but middle tier in ppg and the Pats were 14-2 31st in ypg and 10th in ypg.

Our team has been able to move the ball from our 20 to the opponent's 30-40 yard line pretty well, but our team has had a lot of stupid stuff happen I would give coaching/execution/penalties the blame. I just don't think our offense will magically get better unless we improve on 3rd down.

 

[Millhouse]

Maybe in college football their is a correlation, but I know in pro football there isn't a correlation. The Patriots have been a horrible team on defense recently giving up tons of yards, but their points given up has been in the top half of the league.
The year the Packers were 15-1 they were 32nd in yards pg given up, but middle tier in ppg and the Pats were 14-2 31st in ypg and 10th in ypg.

Our team has been able to move the ball from our 20 to the opponent's 30-40 yard line pretty well, but our team has had a lot of stupid stuff happen I would give coaching/execution/penalties the blame. I just don't think our offense will magically get better unless we improve on 3rd down.

last year there was an 83% correlation between points per game and yards per play in the NFL

 

[javadoc]

Look who is fifth on that list. We should hire their OC.

 

[texascpa]

we're getting fooled into thinking there's a weaker relationship between yards and points than there is.

there's a 90% correlation between yards rank and points rank last year

we are the weird team

in baseball OPS leads to runs. mcdonald was like a manager that calls 2 strike bunts with the bases loaded

Simply, we are a team that is horrid in the red zone.

 

[TheCusian]

in baseball OPS leads to runs. mcdonald was like a manager that calls 2 strike bunts with the bases loaded

This x1000.

 

[BlazeOrange]

Maybe in college football their is a correlation, but I know in pro football there isn't a correlation. The Patriots have been a horrible team on defense recently giving up tons of yards, but their points given up has been in the top half of the league.
The year the Packers were 15-1 they were 32nd in yards pg given up, but middle tier in ppg and the Pats were 14-2 31st in ypg and 10th in ypg.

Both those teams were high-scoring and usually playing with big leads. The yards given up were to hurry-up offenses vs. prevent defenses, garbage time, etc. Sacks, turnovers, and incompletions will kill a lot of drives before the end zone when facing those desperation offenses week after week.

 

[suloyalfan]

i know we've talked about it til we're blue in the face

but oh my god that is unbelievable

Here's is the sorted list of each teams ranking in p5 yards per play minus their points per game. If you're at the top of this list, it means you gain lots of yards and can't score.

fwiw last year we were 38th on this list

NameGap
Syracuse77
Wyoming62
Stanford59
San Diego State55
Illinois53
Rice53
Miami (Florida)48
Navy47
UNLV42
Cincinnati40
Wisconsin40
Georgia Southern34
Rutgers31
Tulane28
Buffalo27
Colorado State23
Alabama21
Akron21
Troy21
South Alabama21
Boise State20
UAB17
Pittsburgh17
Army17
Southern Mississippi17
LSU16
Northern Illinois16
Louisiana-Lafayette16
Penn State16
West Virginia14
Boston College14
Texas13
Arizona State12
Purdue11
Auburn10
Maryland10
Ohio9
Oregon7
Arkansas7
Middle Tennessee6
Kansas State5
Vanderbilt5
Michigan State4
Toledo4
Kansas4
UCLA3
New Mexico State3
Florida Atlantic3
Washington State2
Texas Tech2
San Jose State2
Tulsa2
SMU2
Central Michigan1
East Carolina0
North Carolina0
Massachusetts0
Mississippi State-1
TCU-1
Miami (Ohio)-1
Oklahoma-2
Georgia Tech-2
Oregon State-2
Iowa-2
Michigan-2
Minnesota-3
California-4
Texas A&M-4
Western Michigan-4
Kent State-4
Georgia-5
Duke-5
New Mexico-5
Kentucky-6
Missouri-6
Indiana-6
Louisiana-Monroe-6
South Carolina-7
Mississippi-7
South Florida-7
Wake Forest-7
North Carolina State-8
Appalachian State-8
Louisiana Tech-9
Eastern Michigan-9
Florida State-10
Virginia-10
Notre Dame-11
UCF-12
Old Dominion-13
Ohio State-14
Tennessee-14
Nebraska-15
Florida International-16
USC-18
Northwestern-18
Utah State-18
Georgia State-18
Ball State-18
Louisville-19
Clemson-20
Nevada-20
UTSA-20
Iowa State-21
Fresno State-23
Colorado-24
North Texas-25
Arizona-27
Hawai'i-27
Memphis-28
Oklahoma State-29
Florida-30
Arkansas State-32
UTEP-34
Baylor-37
Bowling Green-37
Western Kentucky-38
Virginia Tech-43
Texas State-45
Utah-46
Washington-54
BYU-58
Temple-80

What's our number with Notre Dame included? I know they technically aren't "P5", but really they should be included in that group.

 

[Millhouse]

What's our number with Notre Dame included? I know they technically aren't "P5", but really they should be included in that group.

i don't have time to redo that right now but my guess is we'd still be at the top with 15 pts vs 429 yards but by a smaller margin. the other 2 p5 games averaged 13 pts and 425 yards.