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Message: [QUOTE="Crusty, post: 312154, member: 2265"] [SIZE=3][FONT=arial]I don’t buy your examples. Indiana, Vandy and Duke have never put any money or energy into their football programs. All three have lifetime losing records over 124, 121 and 66 years, respectively. None of them has really tried to improve their programs. While the Oregon State Beavers also have a lifetime losing record (503-547-49), they have gone 64-59 (.566 winning percentage) under Mike Riley, their current coach. They have only had tough times the last two seasons. So, I’m not sure why they belong in this discussion.[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=arial]We are not Indiana, Vandy or Duke (or even Oregon State for that matter). We have a long winning tradition and are putting the money and energy into the football program. We have to step up the schedule and ramp up the competition if we want to improve. We’re playing catchup.[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=arial]Under your logic that losing records kill recruiting, we should not be having the improvement in recruiting we are enjoying, especially this year. You also have to explain the great class Vandy is having (#17 or 34 in the nation). I expect a 4-8 to 6-6 type season and I don't think that will change a thing.[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=arial]Yes, winning is better than losing – but only if the competition is high caliber. I would rather play USC on national TV and lose, than play a Stony Brook and win. Beating Stony Brook helps us do what? Impress recruits? [/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=arial][/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=arial][SIZE=2][FONT=arial]Everybody is going to be limited to a couple of record-padding games and the rest will be competitive. Our schedule will not be any worse than anyone else. Last year Clemson played two patsies and the rest were ACC or SEC opponents. FSU played two patsies and then ACC, Oklahoma and Miami. [/FONT][/SIZE]We are in with the big boys now and we need to adjust our thinking. After all, we are going to have to beat these folks to get anywhere anyway. [/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=arial]Time to say bring it on.[/FONT][/SIZE] [/QUOTE]

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