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Message: [QUOTE="upperdeck, post: 1111047, member: 474"] tried that in the past with no luck.. i found one on ebay that was not priced too bad and was able to win it so i am good for another year. had a few older ones i was trying to buy from a place in california but it seems he went out of business, years ago i got copies of older issues of most of what i needed from the ND librarian who photo copied stuff for me from their collection for no cost SU wouldnt even give me access. [/QUOTE]