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Message: [QUOTE="bpo57, post: 2469546, member: 1572"] The hitting did overwhelm it but to say (as you and br are saying) that it was [B]100%[/B] due to PED suspicion is off the mark, in my opinion. I remember hearing debates about Piazza's candidacy and the naysayers were def knocking his catching deficiencies. How could it be 100% about PEDs when there is no concrete evidence against him? There are guys with comparable offensive #s that are not in the HoF but of course they're not in because they didn't do it as a catcher. So then what you guys are saying is that minimal defensive contributions or well below average (and Piazza was) defensive play is irrelevant when considering HoF induction. If that's the case then being a DH shouldn't be that big of a deal. [/QUOTE]