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Message: [QUOTE="Knicks411, post: 2469824, member: 767"] I honestly don't remember a lot of people debating his credentials due to the defense. If you have links and the like; maybe I am remembering wrong. My googling skills aren't bringing up a lot either way on Piazza right now, I would legit be interested in reading any takes on why people dind't vote him in A below average defensive catcher is so much more valuable than a DH. Literally anyone can DH. A small % of baseball players can catch at a major league level. I definitely am not saying defense at catcher doesnt matter (and i'm also not saying dont put Papi in, fwiw) I think in the case of Piazza he A) wasn't as bad defensively as his worst critics would say, and B) his offense more than made up for whatever deficiencies he had, [/QUOTE]