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Message: [QUOTE="OrangeDW, post: 2750075, member: 2458"] Jansen for 2 is just not the move anymore. He’s not nearly as good this year as he was the previous few years. Two games in a row. Madson is terrible. He’s been terrible all year. They traded for him thinking he might find it again for the playoffs because he still throws hard and has a “good changeup”. Nope. Still terrible. He can’t locate his pitches or pitch with runners on. I’m amazed at how it’s become the norm to pull pitchers throwing shutouts in the 7th inning or after 7. Two games in a row! Athletes have gotten bigger, stronger, faster, etc. except for pitchers who are all delicate little flowers that immediately stop being effective when they reach an arbitrary number of pitches? BS. Pure BS. If we pulled Orel Hershiser after 7 every game we wouldn’t have won in ‘88 either. Nerd baseball sucks. [/QUOTE]