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Message: [QUOTE="ForCuseSake, post: 2593319, member: 266"] I’ve never understood the Guterding love. He’s a solid attackman but I don’t see him as a player who dominates or takes over games like others on the list or Teat. I think Baptiste is a little more than a traditional Fogo but fogos should never make this list. I don’t care if they never lose a face off. I loathe the whole concept of the fogo. It’s the only reason I would accept taking the ball out at your defensive end line after getting scored on (like basketball). I don’t see those in charge rolling back the idiotic stick head configurations they’ve allowed so they need to do something to minimize the idiocy associated with specialized skills like fogo. Or just get the shot clock going and be done with it! [/QUOTE]