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Message: [QUOTE="Alsacs, post: 3110683, member: 652"] Kurt Warner also played at the higher level was my point. Pretty much every franchise QB elevates the WRs around them. Talent helps but only Eli has had a terrible weapons and crappy OL his entire career. I think Warner has the thinnest resume for a HOF QB. But he was an NFL MVP and he got to 3 SBs and made the playoffs numerous other times winning playoffs games in those years. Eli’s legacy is his 2 SB titles. He made the most of those runs and that is the difference between the recent runs of the Jets and Giants. The Jets made it to 2 AFC title games and lost both of them didn’t finish the job. The Giants got to 2 NFC title games and won 2 SB titles. Eli played 15 years as the starting QB and only won playoff games in the 2 years he won the SB. I mean I would take the titles if I were a fan but the guy’s HOF resume is just weaker than Giants fans/Eli admit. [/QUOTE]