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Message: [QUOTE="Alsacs, post: 3111044, member: 652"] I mean Drew Brees a borderline top 5 QB of alltime. At worst is a top 10 QB of alltime. Eli Manning was never a top 5 QB in the league for ONE season. This guy has been the definition of mediocre. Justin Tuck WON Super Bowl 42. He destroyed the Patriots OL. The team only scored 14 points in that game. Eli Manning WAS NOT more valuable than Justin Tuck was in that game. If anyone watches SB 42 and concludes Eli Manning was the most valuable player in that game they are stupid. I am saying flat stupid. Just like for the record Tom Brady didn't deserve his first SB MVP against the Rams. It should have been Ty Law. The other 3 MVPs he was their best player. Eli Manning is probably getting into the HOF. That in itself is the problem with the HOF. It is no longer the place for the best of the best. The guy was never one of the best. [/QUOTE]