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Message: [QUOTE="BuffOrange, post: 4105636, member: 1643"] Ehh I can't really argue w it. Career achievement awards are for guys who have never won it like Barkley/Malone, not reigning. Nobody wanted to vote him but he's the default choice since the Saints owned TB12. Best player/qb on one of the best teams as always. He does have 1 L since week 1. I'm more perplexed at how the hell Stafford has been in the discussion all year; he must have Russ Wilson's PR guy from last year. [/QUOTE]