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[QUOTE="jncuse, post: 3708956, member: 1969"]
Lift clean and place rules are the following:
- Can freely clean and move if in the fairway
- Can only move if in the rough if a) embedded ball or b) casual water.

Now it does seem that the PGA tour has somewhat mild rules on what is considered an embedded ball if your ball does not bounce in the rough in wet conditions and appears they advise the players accordingly during the tournament.   If your ball doesn't bounce at all, the assumption in wet conditions appears to be that there will almost certainly be some slight part of your ball that is embedded in some manner so you get to move it.   And that is the part of the ruling that Reed took advantage of thinking his ball did not bounce **.    Golfers know the rules and take advantage of those rules, and its not necessarily cheating.

** But here are the problems:
1) We know from the replays the ball bounced so it could not have created the mark his ball ended up in.    I don't blame Reed in any way for this.   I could easily believe his explanation that he did not see it bounce.    My eyes suck in longer distances... . I can pick up the line and turn up until about the 100 yard mark, but after that I often do not pick up the ball on landng.

2)  There was a clear mark near his ball, which we know was not his... which is understandable in rough in wet conditions.   Those will be probably be all over the place.   But was Reed's ball affected by that mark?   Only Patrick Reed knows whether his ball was against it because he moved the evidence (his ball) before the official arrived, and just showed him the mark.

This is the big problem with me.   If you are going to go through the whole act of calling over an official, what is the point if the ball is not where it was.    It just makes me wonder why he moved his ball away from the location.

So did he cheat.   Only he knows -- it was only possible for him to know and not the rules official.
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