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Message: [QUOTE="DeGrozz, post: 3791792, member: 205"] Did anyone actually watch him at Huddersfield though? I feel like Wagner was hyped (in USMNT circles, at least) because of his ties to America but turned out to be a bust when his team stopped spending to get promoted. My personal interpretation of his story was that he got his start at Dortmund because he was Klopps' boy in their playing days, he turned that into a championship job where his ownership spent enough to make the EPL, but once the gravy train stopped, he was exposed in the EPL and then the BLiga. To be completely transparent though, I always read the tea leaves that way, but didn't really invest in following his career. I'd love it to hear your thoughts if you followed him closely. [/QUOTE]