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Message: [QUOTE="dasher, post: 3919261, member: 6061"] My point isn't that they gave up too much. Really, I wouldn't know. Posters on this board have made the claim that they didn't give up that much. If that is true, what does that say about the value of the guy? It would be one thing if he was a pure rental. You give up less for those guys. But a guy with another year you would think you would have to give up something more for a guy that has real value. If the question is whether he makes the Yankees better, he does. On defense alone,. My question is that he seems, other than being left handed, pretty much like what they already have. Power with k's. Those guys only help you so much in tight one run games. I don't hate the move, at all. Just that I sure wouldn't call it great. [/QUOTE]