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Message: [QUOTE="upperdeck, post: 4145561, member: 474"] no he had the 2 really good years and one more later.. his last 10 years starting at 30 he was a 10HR/50RBI guy.. he had one more good yr at 31 then he the one yr with the reds he played most of a season and popped 20 HRs. Even his peak yrs he was a 25 hr/90 RBI guy. Some of that was he played so few game so many seasons. he played almost 20 yrs and avg 18/71.. Now if people value the D more that elevates him but GGs are inflated. If you get one you tend to get more and others never get on at all. [/QUOTE]