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Message: [QUOTE="bpo57, post: 4147563, member: 1572"] My point, which I apparently did not make effectively, is the impact Ortiz had on his team winning those three rings not just that he had three rings. It kinda blows my mind that we're debating the candidacy of a guy with 541 HRs and 1768 RBIs (every eligible player that hit more HRs and/or drove in more runs than Ortiz is in the HoF except for the proven steroid users). He's also hands down the best postseason performer of the last 40 years. Not even close. [/QUOTE]