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Message: [QUOTE="wgdsr, post: 4265709, member: 7179"] i know wayne a little. one thing he has that isn't universal but is common in the pros is size. and he's a bit nasty. and at his size, he can move real well. he also has over 170 ctos for his career. as an example, pre-cuse wykoff had 57. he'll be 1st team and maybe doy. 49 ctos this year and just 3! turnovers himself. graeme hossack from lindenwood was pll doy last year. they're looking for big, tough athletes at d. gibson smith on a post above was the only available d man mentioned not drafted. the other 2 guys i don't get, but know very little about them. [/QUOTE]