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Message: [QUOTE="nyclax, post: 4002310, member: 8261"] Maybe it's just me but I'm kinda put off by IL's salivating over the Yale program and this incredible peerless culture Shay has seemingly built. They act like it's a totally unique blue-collar program but there are dozens just like it. Not to mention the notion that YALE of all places has this intrinsic lunchpail, pull yourself up by your bootstraps culture is ridiculous. I like Shay, he seems like a very solid coach who runs a solid program. But you can see it in the writing how hard IL is trying to get them to be a "thing" when in fact they aren't terribly unique across the D1 landscape or even in their own conference. Cornell has been run a similar way for many years, for instance. [/QUOTE]