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[QUOTE="Zack80, post: 4035640, member: 1245"]
I find it hard to know where the Ivy League will be. They didn't play last year, and their younger players didn't gain any experience.

That is part of my problem with barring Rutgers from the top 10. There just isn't this body of 4 or so other teams that I feel will be particularly strong about to bar them.
This gets even stronger for barring Rutgers from the NCAA tmt, where perhaps the top 12 will make it. I don't have that group of 6 or so teams  that I feel will be particular strong about to bar them. Looking at it another way, probably at least 2 teams will make it from the Big 10, Maryland looks good for one, but 2nd place in the Big Ten is up for grabs.

I tend to favor Hopkins for 2nd in the Big Ten also. Michigan gets almost everyone who made a major contribution back also. You feel like you are playing "cry wolf" with Michigan though.
I don't really see where the offense is coming from for OSU.  Jack Myers is certainly a top attackman, and Jackson Reid is very good, after that I don't really know. The same is pretty much true where TJ Malone is good attackman, but after that things get a little short. I guess the hope for PSU might be that the freshman Will Peden will come in and run the offense - and get other players like Jack Kelly involved better.

I'd probably go with Yale and Loyola in my top 10. I don't know about Denver as I think they lost their 2 leading scorers in Morrill and Walker. No Teat at Cornell.
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