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Message: [QUOTE="HRE Otto IV, post: 4487426, member: 5685"] See those are two different conversations IMO. We are closing the gap talent wise. That is reason for optimism. But at the same time we are not getting results. Not wrapping up qualification until match 13 and coming in 3rd isn't a great result. Getting 5 points in the World Cup group stage in a so so group while only getting 2 goals is not a great result. Following that up with a 3-1 loss in the knockout. We have had better results with less talent. We should be praising the future potential of US soccer but we shouldn't be praising what this squad "accomplished" this cycle. I feel like the US soccer media is a bunch of cheerleaders and rarely offer objectivity. [/QUOTE]