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Message: [QUOTE="Knicks411, post: 4718744, member: 767"] I feel like Kobe was gifted a bunch of those all defensive teams (though granted I guess a lot of them were but I just remember him standing out. It sure is a hell of a list though. Is it somewhat interesting that no one who you'd consider a small forward appears on the list? Lebron 6x all defense, and I do think he would deserve to be in the conversation. Kawhi also, but he's not going to have the length of career to really make it work. Though I do like the emphasis on offense, because it seems like a lot of the time the conversation around two way players gravitates to focusing on guys who are more defensive minded, and it's important, but I would still say offense is almost always much more important on an individual level than defense. [/QUOTE]