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[QUOTE="jncuse, post: 4959146, member: 1969"] You are being over-sensitive. It has nothing to do with any personal agenda towards Kawhi or the Clippers. Look at the data that is out there. (I'll present basketball reference, Actual Betting Odds, and the NBA's own Kia MVP ladder) Kawhi is not a serious candidate on any of those lists. He is just not at the same level, AS AN MVP CANDIDATE, as those other 4 players, in part because of what the MVP award looks at. In a 7 game series this year, he could absolutely out play them as its a 2 way game and he arguably as good a player in that context. However, knowing that this award is very much about counting stats I went to basketball reference, and 3 that excel at those are on very good teams - so it was easy to identify them as prime candidates. And then Luka. I also clicked on the link below to see if there were any other legit candidates. Kawhi wasn't even on the list so I never even considered him. And then I posted the 4 names [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.basketball-reference.com/friv/mvp.html[/URL] But hey if you think Kawhi Leonard is a great MVP candidate better head to Vegas where you can get him at 100-1 odds. [U]Its clearly not some personal agenda on my part.[/U] The 4 I identified have clear separation in the gambling odds as well. Jokic: Even odds SGA: 3 to 1 Luka: 5 to 1 Giannis 7 to 1 Embiid 15 to 1 Tatum 40 to 1 Booker, Edwards, Leonard, Haliburton 100 to 1 [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.covers.com/nba/nba-mvp-odds[/URL] On NBA.com's own MVP tracker, he is currently #8. [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.nba.com/news/kia-mvp-ladder-feb-2-2024-edition?lid=0bqhy7esci2i&lctg=5ed4d0ed62ef10022117c504[/URL] Perhaps everybody is just dumb. But don't pin it on me. [/QUOTE]
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