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[QUOTE="jncuse, post: 5110107, member: 1969"] Senators = Total Incompetence in Moves since the start of the 2020/2021 season. The Senators had a nice core of players as headed into the pandemic season of 2020/2021. Some good drafting, a great haul from the Erik Karlsson trade... it had players on the team or in the system: Tkachuk, Chabot, (Stutzle/Sanderson/Norris from the Karlsson trade), Batherson, Pinto. And since then it has missed the playoffs every year and somehow significantly used up its asset base. It hasn't drafted anyone of note, and in fact moved a number of firsts. [U][I]When you miss the playoffs, year after year, you should be able to add assets by flipping veterans or FA's, or build up first rounders. I'll compare the net movement to what the Canadiens have done since the 2021 season (in a later post), and the difference is massive. It's a shame because the Senators had such an awesome young core built by end of 2020 system (either on team or in system) and it has gone to total waste because of incompetence (largely Dorion). And the Habs were a mess in terms of what was left by Bergeron and they have at least accumulated stuff to bring the teams closer without nowhere near the star power to start.[/I][/U] Instead the Senators have added nothing to that really nice asset base it had accumulated at the end of the 2020 season. The team has no depth and is now capped out. The following is a summary of the moves. If a player has come in from the start of the 20/21 season (via trade or Free Agency, or even waivers) and was then moved, I looked at the in/out. [B]Summary Trade (Netting All Trades, Netting Picks) IN Linus Ullmark Travis Hamonic Nick Jensen 3rd Round Pick 5th Round Pick 2 7th Round Picks Fringe Prospect OUT 1st - 7th Overall 1st - 13th Overall 2025 or 2026 Ist Filip Gustavsson (Minnesota Starting Goalie) Two Second Round Picks 4th Round Pick 6th Round Pick[/B] Summary (GROSS) IN Linus Ullmark Travis Hamonic Nick Jensen 2nd (x 3rd (x.x.x,x 4th (x.x.x 5th (x,x,x 7th (x,x,x,x Fringe (x.x.x OUT 1st - 7th Overall 1st - 13th Overall 2025 or 2026 Ist Filip Gustavsson (Minnesota Starting Goalie) 2nd (x,x,x 3rd (x.x.x 4th (x,x,x.x 5th (x.x 6th (x, 7th (x,x Fringe (x,x ----- Individual Players Alex Debrincat (key asset acquired (24th overall) was flipped for Linus Ullmark) In: Linus Ullmark, 4th, Fringe Out: 7th Overall, 2nd, 4th MATT Murray IN : 7th round pick, OUT : 2nd, 3rd, Fringe Prospect EVGENI DAVYDOV IN : 3rd OUT : 2025 or 2026 Ist Jacob Cychrun In ; Matt Jensen, 3rd Out : 1st (13th overall), 2nd, 4th Travis Hamonic (Still with Team) In : Travis Hamonic Out: 3rd Round Pick Mathieu Joseph (Gone) In : 4th Out : 3rd Vlad Tarasenko (FA Signing then traded) In : 4th, 3rd, Out: N/A Patrick Brown In: Out : 6th Dylan Gambrell In: Out : 7th Austin Watson In : Out : 4th Cam Talbot: In : Out : Filip Gustavson Tyler Motte: In: 7th, Fringe Prospect Out : N/A Josh Brown In: 5th, Fringe Out: 4th, 7th Tyler Ennis In : 5th Out: n/a Zach Senyshyn In: 5th Out : 4th Braydon Coburn (Helped Tampa with Cap) In : 2nd, 7th Out : Nothing Eric Gudbranson: In: 7th Out : 5th Derek Stepan In: nil Out: 2nd Mike Reilly: In: 3rd Out: 5th, Fringe Compensation Received for Players on 2020 Team that were Traded in 2021 or Beyond Nick Paul - 4th (and Mathieu Joseph, see above) [/QUOTE]
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