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Message: [QUOTE="relaxer, post: 4719259, member: 7852"] I think jitterbugs are certainly a very reliable dodging type to project to the next level, but I'm not ruling out other kinds of effective dodgers: I just don't think Ford is a particular high level athlete or dodger relative to his recruiting ranking. Here are the five stars from the past several recruiting cycles that would not fall under either the pure finisher or the jitterbug archetype: 2020: O'Neill, Kirst, Hiltz, Grimes, McDermott, Haley -- O'Neill and Kirst are first team AAs. Hiltz is a unique player that can be effective as neither a dodger or a finisher, but the thing that has kept him from elite status is a relative lack of dodging success. Grimes has has been just ok (in part because of injuries, in part because of so-so foot speed). McDermott has been injured too much to get a consistent run of play. Haley has been reduced to a part-time starter despite his amazing feeding ability because he can't even draw a slide when dodging a short stick. 2021: Schutz, Egan, Spanos -- Schutz is a quality middie (but not AA caliber yet). Spanos also playing middie where he consistently draws doubles but needs to improve his shooting (both abuse shorties whenever they draw one). Egan has been injured too much to get a consistent run of play 2022: Spallina, Pietriemala, Matan, Lazzaro -- Spallina has been as advertised. Pietro injured. Matan had a decent but not monster debut. Lazzaro didn't see any time. 2023: Kabiri, Lehman, Wade, Burns -- TBD (Burns is the one I have most questions about) 2024: Ford, Pokorny, Anderson, Gardiner, Browne -- TBD (Ford is the one I have most questions about) So there are definitely high level dodging attack recruits that use more than just foot speed to get to the rack, and the hit rate has been decent factoring in injuries. But I would bet the hit rate of the jitterbugs in these classes has been higher though, as it seems that the ones who haven't found as much success have struggled to beat D1 defenders consistently without an elite first step. [/QUOTE]

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