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Message: [QUOTE="jncuse, post: 4600815, member: 1969"] That's not correct. It's quite an inaccurate comment to be honest on a few fronts. 1) It wasn't just Louisville and Florida St - they only had 7 of the 18 losses -- there were 4 other teams that had multiple bad losses as listed below. 2) Add Louisville and Florida St to the B12, and that conference still is way behind the ACC in bad losses. (Or alternatively take them out of the ACC, and its 2 bad vs 11 bad) 3) The ACC had 6 teams with at least 2 bad losses. The Big 12 had ZERO. The really bad teams really hurt and certainly made things worse for everybody, but you are trying to shine a turd in the ACC that doesn't deserve shining. ACC (Less Louisville and Florida St) = 11 bad losses Big 12 = 2 Bad losses [U]2 Loss ACC teams[/U] Louisville 4 Florida St 3 Boston College 3 Notre Dame 2 Syracuse 2 Clemson 2 [/QUOTE]