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Message: [QUOTE="Orangemen, post: 4602743, member: 106"] The metrics are not perfect, so it’s very reasonable to poke holes in them. Also, it does come down to a debate about mediocre teams, so you can say what does it matter. But at the end of the day, getting a bid matters, even for mediocre teams, so the metrics should be scrutinized. What I don’t get is what does OOC even mean anymore. We play Colgate once every year, we play Duke once most years. Somehow our fate is tied to what Duke does in OOC games but not Colgate. Why? That makes no sense. Conferences are made up and barely exist anymore, at least in the way they used to when everyone played double round robin. And the quadrants… How does winning at the number 75 team count the same as winning at the number one team? Those two accomplishments are not the same. jncuse includes quad 1A wins. A made up metric (as far as I know) that should absolutely be a real metric. [/QUOTE]