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Message: [QUOTE="orangecuse, post: 5389072, member: 668"] I guess one, technically, and conveniently, can claim it. However, the fact is, JB was a total greenhorn himself as a HC when he hired Rick. Therefore, JB was still learning the ropes himself, etc. relative to development, what type of style, system, etc. coach he was to be. By the time JB did, Rick was long gone, as he was only at SU for two short seasons. Moreover, I've never hear Rick himself ever suggest, etc. that JB had any significant type impact relative to his coaching style, technique, etc., but rather names other individuals whom did have major influence and impact. Of course we all know and have heard the hiring of Rick on his honeymoon ad nauseam. However, how it all played out, etc. says more about Rick then it does about JB hiring a greenhorn assistant. [/QUOTE]