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Message: [QUOTE="jncuse, post: 5341464, member: 1969"] They didn't give up much. Its not the trade value given up that bothers me. Its the what happens next, when we will already pay 4 starters next year nearly $120M -- before Ingram, and for a team that is a play in type team at best. My concern is what this leads to -- the next contract, his injuries, way too much mid range shots to get "his" points. Plays soft too often. He's going to get a near max contract from the Raps - they put themselves in a pickle here as a middling team. There will be a few teams with max cap space in the offseason (Brooklyn) being one, and Ingram will use them as leverage -- why should he have any loyalty to the Raps who are a middling team. That's going to force the Raps to pay him quite well. It will be below max but not that far... and given our current salary obligations that's not good. Also not crazy about his play style and the fact that he needs the ball to succeed given the rest of our core... we need 3+D guys not more guys who need the ball... perhaps we move RJ Barrett. But Barnes, Quickly, Barrett, Ingram -- not enough ball, and not enough defensive stoppers. But i guess he does shoot better than RJ -- but I like that RJ is our best downhill player. I took this from an NBA.com article I just read on upcoming FA's. I think they thought the ranks 3rd was a compliment. Being 3rd in pull up 2's, is not a great thing to me. Taking a shot that is typically earlier in the shot clock is not great for efficiency. [B]12. Brandon Ingram, Toronto Raptors[/B] [LIST] [*]Ranks [URL='https://www.nba.com/stats/players/shots-general?GeneralRange=Pullups&PerMode=PerGame&Season=2024-25&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&dir=D&sort=FG2A']third[/URL] with 7.2 pull-up 2-point attempts per game. His 46.1% on pull-up 2s ranks [URL='https://www.nba.com/stats/players/shots-general?CF=FG2A*GE*100&GeneralRange=Pullups&PerMode=Totals&Season=2024-25&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&dir=D&sort=FG2_PCT']19th[/URL] among 51 players with at least 100 total attempts. [/LIST] [/QUOTE]

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