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Message: [QUOTE="CNYGuy, post: 5274345, member: 9227"] It’s a top-tier bowl for a reason in the ACC. Oregon (playoffs), Arizona State (playoffs), USC (not good), UCLA (not bowl eligible), Arizona (not bowl eligible), Utah (not bowl eligible), Washington (not good enough) Cal (not good enough) and Stanford (not bowl eligible) pushed a lesser thought of nationally team up. Hate the opponent but people are crapping on the Holiday Bowl like it’s the Military Bowl. This is a top-tier ACC game along with Pop-Tarts and Gator and treated equally among them by the ACC. [/QUOTE]