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Message: [QUOTE="STEVEHOLT, post: 5309546, member: 522"] I’m not arguing those facts. But I’ve heard the head to head argument proffered on multiple media outlets. The problem with the QB position and using strict numbers is so much of your stats depend on team style of play and game situation. A major reason burrow has the numbers he does is because his team was down so often they had to throw. I do think overall team performance matters quite a bit for the mvp award and number are just one part of the equation. This isn’t best offensive player award. The fact the bills had a better record and had wins over both number 1 conference seeds in my opinion greatly bridges any numbers gap between he and Lamar . The Chiefs and lions combined for 3 losses. Two of them to the bills. The ravens lost to the Raiders and Cleveland. [/QUOTE]