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Message: [QUOTE="tbonezone, post: 5192912, member: 1028"] [SIZE=4]while showing off his [I]mentos competatis[/I] last night costas dropped a couple of quotes :[/SIZE] (during the same at bat no less ) "[B]Lies, damned lies, and statistics[/B]" costas attributed it to mark twain but twain attributes it to Benjamin disraeli. there are numerous other attributions cited on wiki [COLOR=rgb(61, 142, 185)][URL unfurl="true"]https://www.wikiwand.com/en/articles/Lies,_damned_lies,_and_statistics[/URL][/COLOR] but mark twain did popularize it. the second was : [B][I] [I]“He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lampposts — for support rather than for illumination ". [/I][/I][/B] [I][SIZE=5] this quote is easily traceable to Andrew Lang. can't remember who he cited . ben franklin maybe ? anyways he went on to say he only quotes from the best. [/SIZE][/I] [I][SIZE=5](for the record the term mentos competatis is entirely my own coinage but feel free to use it bob )[/SIZE][/I] [/QUOTE]