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Message: [QUOTE="Orangezoo, post: 5747717, member: 237"] Right I don’t discount that at all. There is something to sell here in terms of visions and culture of winning even if it’s a new staff but I don’t challenge that point if we are competing with top 10 programs. I am more saying if we are up against the recency of relevance with some SEC teams we have a dog in that fight around culture with Gerry and staff. A guy like Wilkens where’s relationship pre existed matters too. [/QUOTE]