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Message: [QUOTE="DoctahLexus, post: 5756722, member: 6798"] Agree overall that people are losing it prematurely a bit, but Iowa State also had some key guys who were multi year players for them. Milanovic and Lipsey were in years 3 and 4 of college, all with Iowa State, and were clearly 2 of their best 3 players. Jefferson is a good example of a not that high rated transfer, but he had also been playing with Iowa State for a year already. They also had a couple freshman who came in and produced right away. They were not a team of new arrival low rated transfers. We certainly do not have the veteran equivalent of a Milanovic or Lipsey in the fold and need to find that type of instant impact player out of the portal instead. As of now we do not have that. Hoping we can at least get some decent contributions out of our freshman similar to them. [/QUOTE]